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from: TODD HENSON
date: 1998-02-03 23:38:00
subject: Order

Once a person can understand that the uninverse is infinite, and that
the cause of the universe, which for simplicity's sake I will call the
Origin, is something which is without beginning and without end, we can
take our understanding of cause and effect and examine the order of the
universe.
Let us consider the fact that the universe has order. It operates by, and
is literally defined by the laws that we can easily observe. So, this would
indicate that the Origin also has order, because everything has a cause - the
universe and the laws that govern it had a cause.
Some will say that order quite often comes out of the disorder of chaotic
systems and would deny my claims. But, the limited amount of seemingly 
rdered
behavior that sometimes comes from seemingly disordely sources is not a case
of order from disorder at all. The behavior of an ordered pattern emerging 
ut
of disorder is a phenomenon that is governed by the *ordered* laws of physics
which govern the behavior of the universe in the first place.
We have random behavior of matter because of inertia. Matter does not have
a mind, nor volition. It simply reacts according to whatever forces are 
cting
upon it, in a natural manner, all according to the consistent (orderly) laws
of physics.
A deck of cards will never magically jump up and self-create a delicate
card house, nor will it do so over time. The cards will stay there in the
deck because of the orderly and consistent nature of the laws of physics.
Water droplets can freeze into snowflakes and create wonderful angled and
ordered patterns, all by themselves. Is this a case of order out of random
disorder? No. The ordered and structured laws that govern the behavior of
small freezing droplets of the particular configuration of H20 are in place,
before the snowflake ever forms, in an ordered fashion. Indeed, these laws
were in effect at the very creation of this universe, before there ever
were any snowflakes formed.
In short terms, the laws that govern flake-making are inherently ordered
to the effect of creating an ordered arrangement. However, to create a
snowflake naturally is one thing, to have an IBM computer "form naturally"
is beyond the scope of physics. There are limits, and that is the embodiment
of inertia.
Indeed, seeing as how every aspect of reality has a cause, if the the Origin
had absolutely no order at all, then order would never have existed in our
reality. It is similar to what was stated before, that if absolutely nothing
at all ever existed, then nothing ever would. So, if order never existed
within the Origin, then it would have never been imparted to this reality.
Indeed, without order to even define what a continuum IS, to even define
that a continuum exists, there couldn't even BE a reality. So, order in the
universe indicates that the Origin itself posesses order and the ability
to transmit that order into the finite realities that spawn from it. The
ordered phenomenon of this universe came from the ordered nature of the
pre-existing infinite Origin.
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