> > > > JE:-
> > > > I am happy to follow this modelling
> > > > simulation. IMHO the outcome is
> > > > predictable.

> > > JM:-
> > > Follow?  My impression was that you would participate -
> > > i.e. answer the questions to the best of your ability.

> > JE:-
> > You can "do" an experiment but you can only "follow"
> > a model. That is one of the big differences between
> > them.

> > > JM:-
> > > I went to considerable effort to make the mathematical
> > > requirements simple - only biological intuition is needed
> > > to participate.  Simply answer the questions appearing in
> > > the post "Experiment - Peshwari cat and Peshwari pig".

> > JE:-
> > I appreciate the effort you are making.
> > However you are attempting to test
> > Hamilton's rule in the hardest
> > possible way.

> JM:-
> You continue to misunderstand.  I am NOT attempting to test
> Hamilton's rule.  This is fictitious data.  It cannot test
> anything.  The only purpose is to UNDERSTAND what Hamilton's
> rule says.

JE:-
Yes, but that means a TEST of the VALIDITY 
of all assumptiuons that constitute the rule.
Ok?

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UNLESS all CONTESTING assumptions that constitute 
the rule are made explicit BEFORE the simulation
is run, it is IMPOSSIBLE to test their validity
using your model.

Please define what Hamilton et al 
consider to be:

1) absolute fitness
2) relative fitness

Please provide your defintions of
both of the above and say how 
both can be measured via the rule
in both cases.

NOTE 1: I have provided these
definitions for BOTH
CASES, i.e. I have defined 
how Hamilton et al defined both 
and I have provided how I would 
define both. I have also provided how
both are measured using his rule.

NOTE 2: If these defintions are not provided
by every individual participant, then the
model is absolutely misused and I will not
take part in such misuse.

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>snip< 

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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