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to: Adam Flinton
from: jeff
date: 2004-10-28 16:12:54
subject: Re: Another American great power?

From: jeff 

Adam Flinton wrote:
> jeff wrote:
>
>> Adam Flinton wrote:
>>
>>> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:11:13 +0100, Adam Flinton
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:47:40 +0100, Adam Flinton
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only reason a country has invested
(in the past) in rockets
>>>>>>>>> is   when  they have a serious
explosive payload to deliver.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   That's news to the Japanese, who have
their own launch capacity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> & their own nuclear power plants & the
ability to assemble
>>>>>>> weapons if   required (e.g by North Korea or China).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, in a similar postion to the
Brazilians or the Iranians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most possibly much further along in many ways
(certainly than
>>>>>>> the   Iranians).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Actually I expect Japan, Taiwan and South Korea
to go nuclear,
>>>>>> especially  if Kerry wins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it has nothing to do with who is the US president. China is
>>>>> becoming the  predominant power in the area & they
will set the pace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you see Kerry moving to defend Taiwan if China invades?  I don't
>>>> think  so and I'm reasonably sure the Taiwanese don't either.  Ditto
>>>> for the  other two.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see Bush doing it either. There is only one way for the US to
>>> defend Taiwan & that is via nukes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, sticking a couple aircraft carriers and a a few submarines has
>> done the trick in the past.
>>
>
> Key phrase...In the past.
>
> How long do you think such a formation (at least the surface vessels)
> would survive against today's PRC?
>
> Modern su-27 en mass + sunburn asm'es will make a mess of a cvbg.
>
>
>> The Chinese know that if they take those out... they are going to have
>> even less usable real estate than they started with.
>
>
> & the US knows that posters & photos of "old New
York", "Old Washington"
> "Old LA" etc will have to be saved for posterity.
>
> Adam

You know, in America it's not too difficult to legally change your name. I
think Adam & Robert Chamberlin has a nice ring to it.

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