-=> Quoting Russell Brooks to Will Trives <=-

 WT> Oh CMON! I'm getting a little sick of your bash bash bash rockwell.

 RB> Hey, I'll play your silly game.

I'm not the one who is lying.
 
 RB> Ah, yes but there IS TRUTH in what I say.

Hardly any, you say rockwell based modems aren't capable of achieving
real 28.8k connects which get proper throughtput. You said they falsely
report a 28.8k connect. I said that's not true as I use my modem every
day and it works fine. I told you my average cps on a normal LAPM
V42bis connection is around 3260.  I have E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E contrary
to what you have said. It's that simple.
 
 RB> I admit, I can not fault the SupraFaxModem (Rockwell) for connecting
 RB> and delivering at 28800 & 3300cps to USR's or anything else.
 RB> But that is the only one.

Your opinion nothing more, you want to come over to my house and i'll
show you over 5 different calls to five different numbers in which I
can easily break the 3300 cps barrier. Come over i'll prove it to you.
 
 RB> It can't be because of Their 64state trellis coding unless your
 RB> modem also supports 64state trellis coding.
 RB> ...NO ROCKWELL SUPPORTS 64S...
 
I'm not so certain of this. I think it's a spilt thing again like
connect speeds. I run the USR STATS MAXIMUS program and it says this.

| L | Trellis Code       64S-4D/16S-4D |
 
If my modem only SUPPORTED 16S-4D don't you think both modems would
be forced to 16S-4D? I think what happens is that the USR is encoding
at 64S-4D and receiving at 16S-4D while my banksia is on the vice
versa. I might be wrong but it has a nice ring to it.
 
 RB> That is a feature of mnp4, be it on a rockwell or USR. Nothing to
 RB> do with the brand of the chipset or modem.
 
Wrong, when I lock MNP/4 and send to a Courier, I only get around
3240 cps, same as normal, but when the USR sends to me, I can get
upto 3330cps depending on how well setup the modem is. Now again I
offer you to come and see this for yourself. Oh I forgot to mention
that when I force mnp/4 on a fellow rockwell modem the cps to and fro
remains at 3240 cps. 

 RB> You have not proof of how good your lines really are unless you use
 RB> a Datascope (professional gear) or have a USR Courier (anyone can
 RB> have one) both ends and use their Line Probe Diagnostic feature.

I do not need to, I have no problems. And I can always connect to a
USR running on maximus with the stat prog and get returns like this

               Connection Information 
___-----------------------------------+
 E | Modulation                  V.34 |
 F | Speed                28800/28800 |
 G | Symbol Rate            3200/3200 |
 H | Carrier Frequency   1829/1829 Hz |
___-----------------------------------+
 I | Data Compression            NONE |
 J | Protocol               MNP 244/8 |
 K | Compression Ratio      0.00/0.99 |
 L | Trellis Code       64S-4D/16S-4D |
___-----------------------------------+
 M | Blers                          0 |
 N | Fallback                 Enabled |
 O | Roundtrip Delay           3 msec |
___-----------------------------------+
 P | Nonlinear Encoding         ON/ON |
 Q | Precoding                  ON/ON |
 R | Shaping                    ON/ON |
 S | Preemphasis              4/4 -dB |
 T | Recv/Xmit Level       25/17 -dBm |
___-----------------------------------+

*Note the modem used here was an ellcon not my banksia, my banksia
seems to have more grunt than this modem and it shows up on the stat graph.

 RB> I am not really a "USR ZEALOT"

You admitted as much. Back in your previous message :)

 RB> I have Rockwells & USR's
 RB> I consider that the only Rockwell Modem worth any salt is the
 RB> SupraFaxModem 288i (because it uses Flash Rom to change\enhance
 RB> the code controlling the Rockwell Datapump, and Supra actually DO
 RB> delve quite deeply into turning a silk purse into a sow's ear)

Look i'm dreadfully sorry to argue with you but I have a different
story. I'm sure the supra is great. I think you're just totally
blowing the proportions of rockwell's ineffectiveness.

 RB> ALL OTHER ROCKWELLS either just do cosmetic changes to rockwells
 RB> own controller or do nothing at all to improve their controller
 RB> code over the other clone makers code
 
How would you know? "ALL OTHER ROCKWELLS" is a broad statement to
make. I think over recent times companies have been tinkering with
such things.

*Note all cps figures stated are with zmodem. Using the os/2 "P" V2.05
 freeware protocol library.

Will Trives (aka Fzoul)

Internet ----> fzoul{at}zip.com.au
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