Mayayana wrote:

> "Deloptes"  wrote
>
> | True true - Tesla becomes green after >200000km if all goes well and you
> do
> | not replace the battery after 5y. Until then the best is diesel fuel -
> | the one they want to ban, because it's engine is most efficient and
> | green. I was shocked - there were studies - big studies - "they" refused
> | to make public. Crazy!
> |
>
> I came across this report at one point:
>
> https://theicct.org/publications/EV-battery-manufacturing-emissions
>
>    Not as shocking as you're indicating, but certainly
> questioning the "greenness" of electric. Both the battery
> manufacture and the source of electricity are factors.

Don't know if you understand German, but here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0uUKHxxCu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm9h0MJ2swo

French government and German car manufacturer did extensive research
comparing the carbon and waste footprint of electric cars with diesel and
benzin (gasolin) cars.
The only point I agree with the naive fools is that there must be done
something for the big cities. In my opinion they must be shut down anyway
for living - it is inhumane.
And living outside makes EVs obsolete anyway.

This is enough to close the topic.

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