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echo: philos
to: ANDREW CUMMINS
from: KEITH KNAPP
date: 1998-02-03 19:37:00
subject: Smart

AC> AC>Uh, the cost of the missile vs. the cost of the target hardly has
AC> AC>anything to do with anything.  Consider, our country gives
AC> AC>billions of dollars (welfare, etc.) to human debris who are worse
AC> AC>than worthless.  Now, how smart is that?
AC> KK> Andrew, I really hope you keep these kinds of posts coming.
AC> KK> Only a week ago you were calling people Nazis, and in this post
AC> KK> you demonstrate what is apparently a quite sincere contempt
AC> KK> for the value of human life.
AC>Uh, WE was only concerned about the cost of bombs, the
AC>the loss of life, so why did you not find it in your heart
AC>to find fault with him?  Anyway...
I was not replying to your accurate perception of military strategy.
I was replying to your mention of "human debris who are worse than
worthless."
You are correct in implying that if a million-dollar 'smart' weapon
could neutralize an enemy weapon that might kill 1,000 Americans,
most of us would say that was a bargain.
But you don't seem to have thought much about what to actually _do_
about those "human debris who are worse than worthless."
Euthanasia?  Work camps?  You wouldn't seriously consider such
ideas, would you?  If not, what then?  If you say they should
get jobs, tell me where these millions of jobs are suddenly going
to materialize from.
If you look at the history of welfare programs, you see that the
'relief' in the 30s was a direct respinse to the worst of capitalism's
cyclical fuckups, where millions of people desperately needed a few
dollars to keep from literally starving.
In the 50s, when the 'Welfare' concept was being forged, you see
that both Dems and Repubs understood very well that this was a
way of buying people off so they would not riot in the streets.
It is accurate to say that there was never any provision for education,
job training, or child care.  But both sides went along with this.
Does that mean we are now justified in cutting them off so that
we create millions of bag ladies raising their children on the
sidewalk, with food gained from dumpsters?
If not, tell me exactly, precisely, what you think should be done
with all those millions of people -- who, incidentally, are for
the most part single mothers.
Stalin is reputed to have said that the death of one person is a
tragedy, but the death of one million people is a statistic.
It's trivially easy for you to go on about "human debris who
are worse than worthless."  But if you suddenly had responsibility
for the lives and deaths of those millions of people, what would
you do?
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