> > >>JE:-
> > >>What is the difference between
> > >>a reduced positive c and a negative c?
> > >>If c was an abolute measure of fitness
> > >>then yes, a real difference exists. However
> > >>c is only a relative fitness cost and not
> > >>an absolute fitness cost, so what is the
> > >>difference?
> > >>
> > >>BOH:-
> > >>
> > >>As far as the rule is concerned, none.
> > >>
> > >>----------- end quote --------------------
> > >>
> > >>For the 6th (?) time and counting:
> > >>
> > >>Do you agree or disagree with the
> > >>answer Dr O'Hara provided? A simple
> > >>YES or NO will suffice.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > No, a simple yes or no will not suffice to your question as it has
> > > been put.
> > >
> > > My answer is: I disagree with Dr O'Hara.

> > BOH:-
> > Oh!  The point behind the statement I made there was that the rule still
> > holds whether c is positive or negative, i.e. it can still be used to
> > decide whether a behaviour will invade a population.  Obviously changing
> > the value of c may change the prediction, but the rule would still be
> > used.  Therfore as far as the rule is concerned, there is no difference,
> > even if there would be a diffeence in a particular application
> > of the rule.

> JM:-
> And, to repeat for the third time, I agree with the content of
> the statement
> that BOH has just now made, but disagree that "As far as the rule is
> concerned, none" is an appropriate answer to the question John meant.


JE:-

_________________________________________
"the question John meant?"

The above is so outrageous I
demand an immediate retraction
and apology.

Are you now allowing yourself the
right to dictate  what I can say and
ask? I can assure you  that the
question WAS EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT
IT TO BE.
__________________________________________


> JM:-
> That it was not an appropriate answer has been illustrated repeatedly by
> the misinterpretation of this answer that John has made.


JE:-
I have made a MISREPRESENTATION?
Of exactly WHO? MYSELF? was
this because I never, (in your
dictatorial opinion) asked
"the question John meant"?


> JM:-
> And I STRONGLY agree with NAS
> that "a simple yes or no will not suffice".

JE:-
I STRONGLY recommend a course
in basic logic.

The question I asked was:
Do you agree or disagree with
the answer Dr O'Hara provided?

This question only requires a
YES or NO answer. AFTER you
answer EITHER: YES (you do agree with
the answered Dr O'Hara provided)
or NO (you do not agree with the
question Dr O'Hara provided )can
you VALIDLY QUALIFY YOUR ANSWER.
So far, from what I can make out,
your answer remains AMBIGUOUS.


Please complete the form:

	"A DECLARATION OF MEANING"

so we do not have to keep talking
past each other.
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