Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Derek W. Keoughan wrote:
>> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>>   
>>> Derek W. Keoughan wrote:
>>>     
>>>> True enough, but you CAN buy laptops without an OS
installed.  There's a 
>>>> Canadian company - www.eurocom.com - which builds
"whitebooks" that can 
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>> To bad they don't have a department in Europe.
>>>     
>> I guess the owner was/is European, or wanted it to have a
"distinct" 
>> name... no idea where it really comes from, but hey, I'm not picky - 
>> I'll ship anything, anywhere. :)
>>
>>   
> Believe me, to ship from the States to Europe is for end users a very 
> bad idea. And I know about  what I an speaking because I have done so 
> already.

Did ya miss the part where I mentioned Canada?

Please don't lump it all together - I'm not in "the States".

I ship custom-assembled PC's all over North America, and to date, I've 
had ONE hardware failure that I've had to replace - and that was only 
because UPS dropped the computer off the back of their truck or 
something, and completely demolished it.  The 800g copper/aluminum CPU 
heat sink snapped off the socket and tumbled around inside, scrapping 
the motherboard, RAM, video card, and pretty much everything else it 
smacked into.  The CD-ROM drive was wedged into it's slot so hard it 
practically took a crowbar to remove it.  Certainly not "the norm" for 
shipping and handling!

If built and tested properly, if packaged properly for shipping - well, 
there's no issues.  With a proper burn-in test, we do all we can, and 
send it on its way.

I'm not trying to say that it's impossible to have problems occur - 
laptops certainly get more abuse and handling than a desktop machine, 
but the shipping to/from North America to Europe is the least of your 
worries.

(Just ask the guy I saw who left his laptop running on the roof of his 
BMW and started driving down the street!  He stopped the car, but the 
laptop kept on going....)

>> hours to Montreal and try it in their lab...  though they had no problem 
>> offering me a small discount to BUY one of every model, so I could test 
>> them out!
>>
>>   
> Well, that is what trade is about, isn't it? :-)

Hard to develop a market in a very small market (like eCS laptop sales) 
when you're expected to BUY one of everything a vendor makes in order to 
test it.  They really don't seem interested unless you can tell them how 
many units you're going to ship if it works.  I suppose I could make up 
a number, but I really wouldn't be fooling anyone.

-Derek

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