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from: John Edser
date: 2004-08-06 06:19:00
subject: Re: Absolute or just rela

"Anon."  wrote:
> >>>>JE:-
> >>>>Here we go 'round  the mulberry bush....
> >>>>
> >>>>--------------quote----------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>1) 22/01/2004:
> >>>>
> >>>>JE:-
> >>>>What is the difference between
> >>>>a reduced positive c and a negative c?
> >>>>If c was an abolute measure of fitness
> >>>>then yes, a real difference exists. However
> >>>>c is only a relative fitness cost and not
> >>>>an absolute fitness cost, so what is the
> >>>>difference?
> >>>>
> >>>>BOH:-
> >>>>
> >>>>As far as the rule is concerned, none.
> >>>>
> >>>>----------- end quote --------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>For the 6th (?) time and counting:
> >>>>
> >>>>Do you agree or disagree with the
> >>>>answer Dr O'Hara provided? A simple
> >>>>YES or NO will suffice.
> >>>>
> >>>
> > 
> >>>NAS:-
> >>>No, a simple yes or no will not suffice to your question as it has
> >>>been put.
> >>>My answer is: I disagree with Dr O'Hara.
> >>
> > 
> >>BOH:- 
> >>Oh!  The point behind the statement I made there was that the 
> rule still 
> >>holds whether c is positive or negative, i.e. it can still be used to 
> >>decide whether a behaviour will invade a population.  
> > 
> > 
> > JE:-
> > Yes, the rule "can still be used to 
> > decide whether a behaviour will invade 
> > a population" on strictly a RELATIVE basis.
> > 
> > ______________________________________________
> > Why did you leave out "on strictly a RELATIVE
> > basis"? 
> > ______________________________________________

> BOH:- 
> Because it's not necessary.


JE:-

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1) 22/01/2004:

JE:-
What is the difference between
a reduced positive c and a negative c?
If c was an abolute measure of fitness
then yes, a real difference exists. However
c is only a relative fitness cost and not
an absolute fitness cost, so what is the
difference?

BOH:-

As far as the rule is concerned, none.

----------- end quote --------------------

Then it doesn't matter within the science
of biology that Hamilton's rule cannot measure 
the difference "between a reduced positive c 
and a negative c?"

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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