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to: Adam Flinton
from: jeff
date: 2004-11-12 13:10:56
subject: Re: Russia tied to Iraq`s missing arms

From: jeff 

Adam Flinton wrote:
> Jeff Shultz wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:03:40 +0000, Adam Flinton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Jeff Shultz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:40:10 -0400, Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:16:29 -0400, Monte Davis
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why did we supply Stalin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uhh, because at the time his team was doing most
of the killing of
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> #1 enemy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Monte
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While we were busy killing the enemy the Soviets
didn't declare war on
>>>>> until the end of the Pacific war.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They hadn't been attacked by the Japanese, the Japanese were smart
>>>> enough not to invade Siberia, and quite honestly, everyone
recognized
>>>> the Soviets had enough on their plate with the Eastern Front.
>>>>
>>>> Russia also had no navy of note, and the war in the
Pacific was largely
>>>> a naval war. Yes, they could have been fighting in
Manchuria, but would
>>>> it have made a difference?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. Massive. Being chucked out of China would have destroyed the East
>>> Asian Co-prosperity sphere bollox stone dead. They would then have
>>> probably chucked em out of Korea etc too.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, there was that certain problem of the Eastern front taking
>> priority..
>> From what I understand, it wasn't won by strength of tactics, but by
>> simple logistics - the Russians simply ground the Germans under by having
>> massively more people and equipment (eventually) to toss at them.
>>
>
> Don't forget the Great General Winter.
>
> However it should be pointed out that the Red Army got to be very very
> good by fighting the cream of the German forces.
>
> The easy example of this is the way the Red Army simply rolled up the
> Japanese Army in China at the tail end of the war.
>
> Adam

Having shipped several divisions back east from Germany to do so...

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