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echo: philos
to: RICHARD MEIC
from: MARK BLOSS
date: 1998-02-04 10:55:00
subject: Time and Again

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>Richard Meic wrote to Mr. Rigor about Time and Again
 
 RM>> Question:  Leading theorists of our day claim that time began at
 RM>> the Big Bang (the BB is something I still dispute).  Why does
 RM>> time have to have a beginning?  IMO, claiming such is sheer
 RM>> speculation, built from assumption.
 
 RM>> There starting from scratch.  Your turn.  ;)
 
 MR> I think the Big Bang is an admirable model.  It seems quite
 MR> plausible given the observed red shift which would seem to suggest
 MR> that (depending on how you look at it) the stars are moving away
 MR> from each other, or the space between the stars is stretching.  
 RM> 
 RM> How does one solve the problem of the "river of galaxies" observed 
 RM> recently?  It kinda trashes their calculations a bit, right?
 Nope.  Not by a long shot.  This phenomena is explained by a large
 gravity well.
 
 RM> Sounds like a good policy.  Consider that 99% of the universe is
 RM> highly conductive plasma, and the presence of magnetic fields all the
 RM> way up to the galactic Superclusters.  Plasma is greatly influenced by
 RM> magnetic fields, BTW.  Could you come up with any valid reason why
 RM> these powerful forces are not even mentioned in the BB model?  I mean,
 RM> it has been shown that plasma and magnetic fields play a key role in
 RM> the formation of stars, the intricate structure of nebula, to the quite
 RM> huge ribbons of galaxies that stretch across the observable universe. 
 RM> Many studies done by physicists Tully, Fischer and many other prominent
 RM> scientists in the field, have clearly shown that there is a lot more
 RM> happening in the plasma universe then many others would like to admit. 
 RM> Yet the BB model does not mention such processes, in fact the BB model
 RM> completely ignores the most powerful force in nature,
 RM> "electromagnetism", and concentrates on the weakest, "gravity".  So,
 RM> again I ask, what is the reason why these processes are not mentioned
 RM> in the BB model?  Is it because they do not feel it is worth
 RM> mentioning?  Is it fear of losing funding for  their pet project?  Is
 RM> it sheer ignorance of the chosen kind?  It is  something for you to
 RM> think about, while you are on that fence. ;) 
 It's really simple, Richard.  In the big bang model, electromagnetism
 has NO EFFECT in the early Universe immediately following the initial
 expansion.  It is not until molecules have begun to combine that the
 strong force comes into play.  This is understood by every proponent
 of the big bang model, and is mentioned at every turn.  How explicit
 must one be?
 
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