From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Somehow I don't think the majority of Americans have really thought much on
this. The local newspapers are not very thorough and the local news shows
suck ( I'm not talking liberal vs. conservative but factual) . After living
in PA for a few years the differences in news reporting is amazing. Be glad
you are in a state where you have relatively good news coverage.

Bob Lewis

"Mark"  wrote in message
news:419c1f5b{at}w3.nls.net...
>I assure you Bob, that I do not think it is a game. I simply think your
>take on the best approach to take is dead wrong - as do the majority of
>Americans.
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:419c1edc{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >I agree it has nothing to do with D v. R v. I, it has to do with
>> >appeasement v. offense. The offense won.
>>
>> No, not appeasement vs. offense -- you're still thinking like it's a
>> game --  it most certainly is not.
>>
>> - Bob Comer 
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:419c1d83{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>I agree it has nothing to do with D v. R v. I, it has to do with
>>>appeasement v. offense. The offense won.
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
>>> news:419c1c6c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> As Gary B. said, you'll not likely change your position,
>>>>
>>>> If new information came up that had anything to do with that, I'd
>>>> listen, but as it stands now, not only no, but hell no --
of course I
>>>> wont change my position.  I've listened all along -- after
all, I was
>>>> on your side at first, then facts got in the way.
>>>>
>>>>>so it's pointless to argue the same old things over
again. I'm just
>>>>>glad that my side won.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!  It's not about your side or the democrats, or the
independents --
>>>> it's about what harm is going to come to this country
because of things
>>>> going on right now and there is NEVER any problem in
arguing the same
>>>> old things if we have the country's future as the most
important goal.
>>>> This isn't a game after all.
>>>>
>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>> news:419c1a8d{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> As Gary B. said, you'll not likely change your position, so it's
>>>>> pointless to argue the same old things over again. I'm
just glad that
>>>>> my side won.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:419c19ab$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> We're already seeing consequences from that act.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes we are, plenty of military and civilian deaths
in Iraq and
>>>>>> Afghanistan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Libya abandoned their plans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not related.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pakistan is cooperating and a rogue scientist
passing out nuclear
>>>>>>>materials/plans has been shut down (hell that
alone makes it worth
>>>>>>>doing over 100 friggin million times),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They would have done that anyway, they're a
nuclear power and know
>>>>>> they have to act somewhat responsibly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>people rising up in No. Korea over the past month,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't seen a peep about that anywhere, but you
don't think it could
>>>>>> possibly because the North Korea leadership has
kept that country in
>>>>>> abject poverty for years and years, do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>people increasing their defiance of the
Mullah's in Iran and perhaps
>>>>>>>most important of all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Er, that was happening even more *before* Iraq,
they actually had the
>>>>>> stirrings of a real democracy there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the uncovering of the incredible amount of
graft going down inside
>>>>>>>the UN via the Oil-for-Food program so as to
undermine our foreign
>>>>>>>policy and cause untold suffering of the Iraqi
people for the profit
>>>>>>>of a bunch of characterless characters, not to
even mention the $100M
>>>>>>>or so out of Saddam's skimmed $21B that went to
promote suicide
>>>>>>>bombing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've said before, that was nothing that
required a war that cost
>>>>>> 10 times as much to wage, not to mention all the lives lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is simply incredible to me that ANYONE
anywhere can still be
>>>>>>> spewing forth arguments against taking Saddam
out - it's simply out
>>>>>>> of the realm of a reasonable position and is
an entirely untenable
>>>>>>> argument that is foolish to continue forwarding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just as amazing to me how some could think so
little of human
>>>>>> life that they are willing to go to war without any need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:419c13ce{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:419c10cc{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Ah, that makes it OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Boy, you're spinning pretty well there --
I never said anything of
>>>>>>>> the sort. We control the college students
here -- if they're doing
>>>>>>>> something illegal to those poor, poor,
conservatives, then we can
>>>>>>>> do something about it. We cannot, however,
take a country forcibly,
>>>>>>>> that was no threat to us, to spread our
own morality and laws,
>>>>>>>> without seeing some consequences of that act.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're already seeing consequences from that
act. Libya abandoned
>>>>>>> their plans, Pakistan is cooperating and a
rogue scientist passing
>>>>>>> out nuclear materials/plans has been shut down
(hell that alone
>>>>>>> makes it worth doing over 100 friggin million
times), people rising
>>>>>>> up in No. Korea over the past month, people
increasing their
>>>>>>> defiance of the Mullah's in Iran and perhaps
most important of all,
>>>>>>> the uncovering of the incredible amount of
graft going down inside
>>>>>>> the UN via the Oil-for-Food program so as to
undermine our foreign
>>>>>>> policy and cause untold suffering of the Iraqi
people for the profit
>>>>>>> of a bunch of characterless characters, not to
even mention the
>>>>>>> $100M or so out of Saddam's skimmed $21B that
went to promote
>>>>>>> suicide bombing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is simply incredible to me that ANYONE
anywhere can still be
>>>>>>> spewing forth arguments against taking Saddam
out - it's simply out
>>>>>>> of the realm of a reasonable position and is
an entirely untenable
>>>>>>> argument that is foolish to continue forwarding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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