> Well I only asked as I used to use Luvshack and outhouse and cavern.
> Since going to winserver I just set up lord without a fossil. None of
> these worked. I will have to go set lord up with a fossil. Some extra
> work, but it can be done, I just wanted to check with You first.
> Thanks, > Mike

Send me an email at ktidmore (at) bellsouth.net, and I'll send you current
betas of any igms that you want to try using.  I've been trying to test
each one under Searchlight BBS but forget to do it a lot some months.  But
most of the ones that are in development now, I have tested under SBBS so I
know they will work over a telnet connection.   

I've been told that some of my igms crash for some reason, but have no
relevant info on the situation to use in an investigation.  Just knowing
that an igm crashes doesn't help a programmer after all.  There's just too
many situations you may not have even though of which can happen on another
person's computers to be able to program for lots of possible crash-causing
events.   That's the biggest trouble of people who use a LORD igm not
contacting the program's author directly and telling them about the problems.  
 
Or they won't use the Fidonet echoes to contact you for assistance.

I've rewritten Forest Outhouse, LORD Cavern, and Outlands Tavern so that
they use the Lord path as a variable on their command line in the LORD
3rdparty.dat file.  If people don't read the igm docs, and just blindly
install a new version, sometimes changes like that can cause the igm to not
work/crash.  I have always hated the fact that so many people simply refuse
to aid a programmer no matter WHAT kind of program they write.

Even before I started doing Lord igm programming on my own, I knew of over
two dozen Lord authors who had given up on the BBS programming work simply
because no one ever told them anything about how their programs worked - or
didn't work.  And I suppose that eventually will be the primary reason that
the few of us who still care about LORD finally give up on the game
altogether.   Donald

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