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to: John Beamish
from: Adam
date: 2007-01-28 21:44:24
subject: Re: Watch those with a `space program`

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

John Beamish wrote:
> A Proton can put up 6 tonnes in a single launch to geostationary orbit;
> an Atlas is in the same neighbourhood; I'm guessing that the Ariane
> isn't far off.
>
> You know more about this than I do but I can't easily imagine a program
> designed to build a launch vehicle that would put up materially more
> than that in a single go.  There might be one or two occasions when you
> would want to ... but a program to build, test and deploy such a launch
> vehicle seems unlikely.
>
> That means we're going send up several packages that can get connected.
>
>

I think the energia vulkan was rated at about 150 tons

Adam

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:48:25 -0500, Adam field.near the bridge">
>  wrote:
>
>> John Beamish wrote:
>>> Yeah ... shuttle.  Not Saturn V.  And what happens when the shuttle is
>>> retired in a few years ... how will the big packages go into orbit?
>>> Certainly not by a modern day Saturn V (that kind of lift was needed
>>> only for NASA)
>>> but by mid-range lifters that can send up several packages that get
>>> connected after doing a rendezvous in orbit.
>>>
>>
>> The russians & Europeans would probably disagree.
>>
>

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