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echo: barktopus
to: Robert Comer
from: Mark
date: 2007-01-25 12:07:46
subject: Re: ADM

From: "Mark" 

I'm not sure the animosity will lessen, we've been fighting that ideology
since our founding. But you're right that we could pay less attention to
them if we didn't need the oil from that region. 100 years ago we used
almost no oil and I believe that 100 years from now we also will use little
oil.

Just to clarify, I don't mean to sound completely against ethanol, I think
it can play a small part, but I'm more interested in other possibilities
that may arise from continuing research in that arena, than in actual large
scale production. I suppose they're going forward no matter what, so I can
hope for both.

I'm sure too that in the future they'll look back at this era and ask
themselves why the hell we didn't build more nuclear plants, explore for
and exploit our own oil, and throw a lot more assets at rapidly developing
more efficient solar panels and storage mechanisms, as well as wind and
wave power.

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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> We have to cut down oil usage somehow, that's the real terrorist threat
> that you seem to be so concerned about.
>
> I'm not saying ethanol is the correct way to go, but *something* has to be
> done to cut down on our reliance of foreign oil.  The less oil we need,
> the less meddling we have to do, and the less meddling, the less animosity
> towards us.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
>
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> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:45b82df5{at}w3.nls.net...
>>I think I recall a few intellectual arguments against my disdain for using
>>"corn for fuel."
>>
>> If I recall correctly those arguments were along the lines of "global
>> energy generation transcends the minutia of food vs. fuel,"
because it's
>> all the same thing in the end and taking corn off the food market to
>> satisfy the transportation market was no big deal because lower oil
>> prices would offset any effects...
>>
>> Perhaps those arguments were misplaced:
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0701130049jan13,0,5505881.story
>> "Ethanol's effect: Expensive tortillas"
>>
>> I guess starving out the Mexicans is an acceptable trade-off for
>> enriching the ethanol producers in the US?
>>
>> For me, I like Exxon/Mobil over ADM 8 days a week.
>>
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