From: "Mark" 

It is distasteful to me, because of the basic underlying ideology that
personal effort toward excellence and achievement is discouraged by an
overwhelming involvement of the state. It's an ideology that ultimately
considers all should be equal in terms of monetary reward/opportunity, i.e.
discourage achievement and reward mediocrity.

Capitalism encourages achievement - take away the incentive for that and
you end up with mediocrity all around - as is well proven world-wide. Look
at France, for instance, over 50% of their GDP goes to the state. When you
give up half of all your potential to politicians, it serves as nothing but
a damper on innovation and progress. This is why the EU is destined to
failure, that is if it is ever actually consummated at all - doubtful.


"Antti Kurenniemi"  wrote in
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> Just out of curiosity, why do you think that you're already "too far down
> the socialism path"? In what ways are you too far, and why is socialism
> such a bad thing? I'm not talking about extremes and theory, but the level
> that it exists in the US today.
>
> You probably already know it, but where I live we tend te bo quite proud
> of the "socialism" we have, and I think that in comparison
to the states
> we're pretty dang deep into it, yet I don't see it as a bad thing. So I'm
> curious about why it's such a red flag to many Americans.
>
>
> Antti Kurenniemi
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> "My point is not that Canada is without sin on these points (except for
>> sports stadiums - we generally don't do that) it's just that you tend to
>> notice someone else's "transgressions" more easily than
your own."
>>
>> That could be true, that I notice more, but I wish that it were not so
>> (that I would notice Canada more), because I do think that we've already
>> gone too far down the socialism path and I remain hopeful (but not quite
>> optimistic) that Bush can move us away from that in his second term.
>>
>> In the short-term, nipping the government controlled healthcare, that so
>> many clamor for, in the bud, is most important, but in the larger, longer
>> term view, Social Security reform is just as important.
>>
>> I don't like the sports stadium collusion either (especially and most
>> egregiously, when they take people's homes away from them for the
>> "greater good" of a new stadium). Indeed if the fans had
any balls/brains
>> at all, they'd say thanks, but no thanks, we're not interested in paying
>> huge bucks to watch steroid ingesting fools earn 100s of millions of
>> dollars to hit fake leather balls over an ad-laden fence.
>>
>
>

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