From: "Robert G Lewis" 


"Ellen K."  wrote
in message news:ossss0532gn3i4e8t3k4os79svqh3tbbrg{at}4ax.com...
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:35:54 -0600, "Robert G Lewis"
>  wrote in message :
>
>>
>>"Ellen K."
 wrote in message
>>news:l1vls0ho0cjkaidv77ei3upui9nnj3ne1l{at}4ax.com...
>>> That is the everyday average citizen's choice to make.
>>>
>>
>>Yes they could decide to spend time trying to learn how the the markets
>>work
>>or they could be  working for a living.
>
> Oh please.   They could put the money in treasury bonds and get a better
> return.
>>

And they would know this how ?

>>> The Dem position is that the people aren't smart enough to make their
>>> own choices, therefore the Dems should make the choices for the people.
>>> This gives them a huge amount of power, which is the real underlying
>>> goal.
>>>
>>
>>Actually the position is that some people will starve etc without the
>>safety
>>net. If you don't care about that then eliminate the nets.
>>
> People would pay attention to providing for their own old age if they
> knew it was their responsibility.
>
>>The republicans seem to feel that people are too dumb to decide who they
>>should marry etc. Same argument different issue different position.
>>
> Nope.  If you're talking about homosexual marriage, that is not a
> question of "deciding whom they should marry", it's a
question in which
> the state has an interest.
>

What was the states interest in interracial marriage ?

Why should the state have ANY interest in marriage . Marriage is a
religious institution. What business is it of the state to interfere in
religion? Reproduction yes as there can be unfortunate effects from in
breeding but why is that any different from the other heath and welfare of
the citizens ? Wouldn't an individual care far more about their own
reproduction than the state ?

So the state doesn't have an interest in whether people starve to death ?
if the citizens aren't healthy and educated where will our future military
come from ?


if you want to argue that the Goverment has no business in welfare or
social security etc that's fine I conside that to be a valid argument, just
don't give me this bull about Dems feel people are too dumb when the repubs
have some of the same positions on other matters of indiviual choice, or
the bull about the states interest. the state is NOTHING without the people
. it belongs to the people ( or its supposed to).


>>> As a person who was a financial professional for some 20 years, I always
>>> told my clients that nobody is gonna care as much about your money as
>>> you do.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:41:29 -0600, "Robert G Lewis"
>>>  wrote in message
:
>>>
>>>>the
>>>>everyday average citizen may not want to spend the time ( or have the
>>>>time
>>>>to spend) learning about the markets much less following them
>>>
>>
>

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