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from: rallee2{at}comcast.net
date: 2008-01-16 13:45:08
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Re: [eCS-Technical] memory size vs speed

Hello Derek

responses follow ....

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From: "Derek W. Keoughan" 
> rallee2{at}comcast.net wrote:
> > Hello Julian
> >   First off it seems as if you are upgrading a somewhat older
board since it 
> is DDR v1 while newest is DDR v3.  This is in no way meant as any kind of 
> demeaning statement since I have that, too.  The point is, or rather
"points 
> are"
> >   1) 2 steps behind current means considerable savings on ram per size unit
> >    2) Until it passes far enough out of mainstream that supply
diminishes and 
> prices go back up
> >   3)  We are always going to need more and more ram
> 
> Jimmy - three points...
> 
> 1) if memory serves, there's only THREE RAM slots in the motherboard, so 
> talk of using all four is moot

Ooops!  Didn't realize any mobo capable of striping ram would stoop to
providing an odd number of slots and aparently missed this one does. 
Helluva overrsight on both our parts, eh?
 
> 
> 2) DDR1 is more expensive than DDR2 RAM (at least, checking my wholesale 
> prices today - more expensive to buy 512MB of DDR400 than 1024MB of 
> DDR2-667)

Besides the fact that I was comparing DDR1 vs/ DDR3, I find that the
supply/demand trends are somewhat subject to other market trends affecting
particularly supply such as when manufacturers geared up for the expected
windfall from Vista before they discovered what a turkey it is and so
watching weekly one can find some fairly amazing buys assuming one is
looking for price only. I sometimes do that too but if the system warrants
it like my most recent one does I just watch for decent sales on high
quality ram.  I recently got a good deal on OCZ Platinum matching, low
latency 1G sticks and am very happy indeed, since I overclock and tune to
hot rod specs.  I enjoy getting the biggest possible bang for the buck.. 
> 
> 3) RAM needs only scale up as you keep adding bloated software to a 
> system... for most eCS users, 1GB is more than plenty.

   While it is certainly true that bloated software and that other windoze
ill, spyware, is a huge factor in ram requirements, it is by no means the
only one.  For example some kinds of work require or at least benefit from
multiple, simoultaneously open apps and this too drives up ram requirements
as does the ever increasing amount of multimedia (primarily flash and java
based) content on web pages these days and that too will only likely
increase.  Point being, as computers can do more they are asked to do more
not to mention the effect of increased broadband adoption prompting more
and more ram intensive content.
  Then, too, is the possibility that many if not most eCS/OS2 either run
emulating software or dual boot to get that one indispensable app to work
that requires windows or some        
 "virtualization" thereof.  If we add the possibility of PC
gaming to the mix, well just forget about it, you need oodles of ram. 
Bottom line, IMHO, if, for any reason one finds a paging file being
accessed even 5%-10% of the time one should really consider more ram.  The
cumulative wasted time of waiting around for a hard drive, when there are
alternatives, is worth the cost of ram if your time has any value whatever,
especially with slower hard drives such as commonly found on laptops and
OEM desktop PCs.
> 
> -Derek
> 
> 
Jimmy



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