From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Well Bremer at least has used the word insurgent

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031209.html

As has Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/12/20041207-2.html

So I would think that the administration is calling it an insurgency.

Bob Lewis


"Mark"  wrote in message
news:41d0d882$3{at}w3.nls.net...
> What can I say, other than they probably haven't said that at all, it's
> just reported as such  shed the most unfavorable light on anything we do anywhere, anytime, for
> any reason>
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:41d0d518{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> They are different it's true, but I'm still not buying a *real*
>>> insurgency, not with any great degree of effectiveness nor numbers.
>>
>> Even our own government and military calls it an insurgency now...
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:41d0ba47$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> "Iraq and Afghanistan are not comparable. Iraq has SO many other
>>> problems
>>> than just localized warlords, there's a real insurgency there."
>>>
>>> They are different it's true, but I'm still not buying a *real*
>>> insurgency, not with any great degree of effectiveness nor numbers. Most
>>> of Iraq is doing quite well and even using the very highest,
>>> unsubstantiatable number of "insurgents" that I've
heard (about 12,000)
>>> and doubling it to 25,000 they would still number less than 1/10th of 1%
>>> of the population. Or, to look at it another way, only 5/10ths of 1% of
>>> the Sunni population. They were done before they started and they know
>>> it, even if they're not willing to face the reality just yet.
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
>>> news:41d0b3b6{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> By not caring what happens to them personally (or
their minions), they
>>>>> effectively can stand up to any government, just as the suicide
>>>>> bombers can.
>>>>
>>>> that's not what we're talking about.
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we made the mistake of allowing them to dig in
in Fallujah
>>>>> because we're so used to allowing them to do so in our
own cities? >>>> Afghanistan: I think it a bit different because of the
terrain, more
>>>>> akin to the para-military groups we have in our
wilderness areas - not
>>>>> to the same degree of course>
>>>>
>>>> Iraq and Afghanistan are not comparable. Iraq has SO many other
>>>> problems than just localized warlords, there's a real
insurgency there.
>>>>
>>>> >>>> I think it a bit different because of the terrain,
more akin to the
>>>>> para-military groups we have in our wilderness areas -
not to the same
>>>>> degree of course>
>>>>
>>>> And a different mindset of the people.  I have high hopes for
>>>> Afghanistan --  we did good for the most part, but it's too bad our
>>>> resources have been diverted elsewhere.  But to think
Afghanistan will
>>>> be purely democratic now is not facing reality, it's still going to
>>>> take some work by us and a lot by themselves, and I for
one hope they,
>>>> (and think they will)  make it.
>>>>
>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>> news:41d0b158$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:41d0aeff$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> And these warlords are so powerful they can stand up to the
>>>>>> government how?
>>>>>
>>>>> By not caring what happens to them personally (or
their minions), they
>>>>> effectively can stand up to any government, just as the suicide
>>>>> bombers can. Perhaps we made the mistake of allowing
them to dig in in
>>>>> Fallujah because we're so used to allowing them to do
so in our own
>>>>> cities? >>>> terrain, more akin to the para-military groups we have in our
>>>>> wilderness areas - not to the same degree of course>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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