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from: Mike O`Connor
date: 2007-10-02 07:12:30
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Removing ea data. sf from a cellular phone?

msnyder1{at}cfl.rr.com wrote:
> One of my children has a Sanyo cellular telephone that takes pictures.  It
> can be made to be recognized by a computer as a mass storage device via a
> USB port.  My son asked me to copy a photo that he took from his camera to
> his computer.  While I was showing him how to use PMView to manipulate
> images, I inadvertently saved one of the images back to the USB drive
> (phone).  This, of course, caused eCS to write ea data. sf to the phone. 
> Now, I expect as a consequence of my having done the above, the phone will
> take photos but will not store them.  Needless to say, I had to endure a
> lot of grief about using an antiquated OS, etc.
>
> A couple of years ago I experienced the same problem with a digital
> camera.  I was able to save the photos on the memory card and format the
> card again and get the camera to work.  Formatting the phone may be an
> option.  It has a format function, but formatting will require someone to
> re-enter all of the phone numbers on the phone again, which is a
> considerable nuisance.
>
> I don't seem to be able to change the attributes of the ea data. sf file
> from hidden, read-only, and system in either Windows or eCS, so I can't
> delete the file from the phone.  Other than formatting the phone, is there
> any way to solve this problem?
>
>   
Hi Mike,

I had a very similar problem with my Motorola RAZR V3x until recently!
I have never actually attached the phone to the USB-port with no memory 
card inserted in the phone, so the DATA connection was always from the 
card to the PC. However as soon as eCS-OS/2 sees that FAT drive it 
writes ea data. sf to it which screws up the VFAT filesystem on it, so 
badly that the Motorola balks completely whilst doing a format on the 
card. note that if the Sanyo is similar to the RAZr, there are IIRC 
three unhidden 8.3 directories, but about 20 hidden LFN directories on 
the card & phone.

I thought OK I'll just format it under Windoze 2K - as I discovered like 
you that it also wouldn't allow deletion of ea data. sf, even after 
supposedly removing RSH attributes. Long formatting it will erase all 
the data, but M$ made it 255 heads and 63 sectors per track, which the 
RAZR again wouldn't accept. I had to zero it with DFSos2.exe, and set it 
to xxx cylinders with 1MB cylinders (64 heads, 32 SPT) using the GEO 
command, then create a partition - I think I used a logical one, eject 
from within DFSee so that the OS didn't write anything to it - then I 
was able to reformat the card [512MB Transflash MicroSD] via the RAZR.

The secret for me was to buy a copy of both NetDrive and the VFAT Plugin 
for it, that will write LFNs to the VFAT card without writing any EAs to 
it! On the two cards I have [512MB+64MB], I am able to physically slide 
a lock on the adapter [full size SD] which has to be used to access them 
via USB, which prevents any writing - so that I can mount RO under NDFS 
and copy the LFN files to HDD, for manipulation with PMView. At this 
stage I haven't written anything back to the card, even as a trial, 
because i've had some other hardware problems ("BANG")!

This might give you some indication - how you could save all the current 
information from the phone before formatting it.

HTH

Regards,
Mike




 
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