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Larry Moran wrote or quoted: > Tim Tyler wrote: > > Anon. wrote or quoted: > >> Criminality is social - is there really a gene for smoking in > >> an Irish bar? > > > > Definitely - according to conventional biological usage. > > > > If you have any doubt about the matter, I refer you to the section > > on "genes for tying shoelaces" - in The Extended Phenotype - p.22. > > Here's another point of view ..... [snip] > Rose, S. (1998) Lifelines: Biology Beyond Determinism. > Oxford University Press, p. 116 I read lifelines. My book review would not be complimentary :-( It would read something like: This book is one long winge about the evils of genetic determinism - and the views of authors such as Richard Dawkins. I learned next to nothing from it - and regard the time I spend on it as time wasted. > "Complex organisms cannot be construed as the sum of their > genes, nor do genes alone build particular items of anatomy > or behavior by themselves. Most genes influence several aspects > of anatomy and behavior - as they operate through complex > interactions with other genes and their products, and with > environmental factors both within and outside the developing > organism. We fall into a deep error, not just a harmless > oversimplification, when we speak of genes 'for' particular > items of anatomy or behavior. > > No single gene determines even the most concrete example of > my physical being, say the length of my right thumb. The very > notion of a gene 'for' something as complex as 'intelligence' > lapses into absurdity. We use the word *intelligence* to > describe an array of largely independent and socially defined > mental attributes, not a quantity of a single something, > secreted by one gene, measurable as one number, and capable > of arranging human diversity into one line ordered by relative > mental growth. > > To cite one example of this fallacy, in 1996 scientists > reported the discovery of a gene for novelty-seeking behavior > - generally regarded as a good thing. In 1997 another study > detected a linkage between the same gene and a propensity for > heroin addiction. Did the 'good' gene for enhanced exploration > become the 'bad' gene for addictive tendencies? The biochemistry > may be constant, but context and background matter." > > Gould, S.J. (2002) "The Without and Within of Smart Mice" > in I HAVE LANDED, Harmony Books, New York p. 234 I haven't read "I Have Landed" yet. However here Gould is not just complaining that the terminology is misleading - he is speaking as though he is unaware of what it is actually used to mean. As he says, his interpretation is an "absurdity". But Gould is attacking a straw man of his own making. Noboby using the "gene for X" terminology was ever asserting that single genes determined behaviour - and Gould should have been aware of that. -- __________ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ tim{at}tt1lock.org Remove lock to reply. --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXPost V1.14 at BBSWORLD * Info{at}bbsworld.com --- * RIMEGate(tm)V10.2áÿ* RelayNet(tm) NNTP Gateway * MoonDog BBS * RgateImp.MoonDog.BBS at 9/3/04 6:11:31 AM* Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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