From: "Glenn Meadows" 

Term limits help.

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Glenn M.


"Adam Flinton"  wrote in
message news:420108ac{at}w3.nls.net...
> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:53:04 +0000, Adam Flinton
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
> >>
> >>> Where are our resident cynics today with even CNN showing people
> >>> dancing  in the streets boastfully waiving around their purple
> >>> fingers?  It looks  like, even with the lower Sunni turnout, and
> >>> death  threats, that Iraq has  at least beaten our
typical turnouts.
> >>>
> >>
> >> So did they when Rhodesia became Zimbabwe, when Nigeria first voted,
> >> when the Burmese voted etc.etc. Heck I even remember elections in
> >> Pakistan.
> >>
> >>> It makes whining about "voter intimidation"
here pretty sick.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No it doesn't.
> >
> >
> > I'm talking about claims of voter intimidation in OUR elections, versus
> > having polling places blown up or people willing to take the risk of
> > identification via finger as having voted.  Back to your eternal
> > problem  with scale.
> >
>
> Scale? Scale of threat or Scale of voting?
>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Millions of people braved not only showing up at the polls but
> >>> being   chromatically conspicuous as having participated.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well done them. & now it is their job to make sure that the next
> >> election is not the last & to ensure that the state does not end up
> >> owning all the sources of patronage & the media, pressuring judges
> >> etc.  etc.
> >
> >
> > Actually, it would be the third election in this case as the function
> > of  those elected now is to write a constitution.
> >
>
> I am aware of that & I repeat my statement.
>
> Usually in these cases the winner of the first proper election becomes a
> bit hard to shift. For instance Kuchma in the Ukraine or Yeltsin > Putin
> in Russia, Mugabe in Zimbabwe etc.etc.etc.
>
> It's to do with control of state resources giving the winner a much
> better "chance" next time round & then if it looks like
the one after
> that might go to someone else.....well then you can do all sorts of fun
> things (as with Ukraine & Belarus & Zimbabwe etc.etc).
>
> You know.....all the TV & Radio extols the great leader....public
> workers are informed who voting for anyone other than the great leader
> will fatally injure their employment propects, Police somehow seem to
> allow ruling party rallies but not anyone else etc.etc.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> The spoils will go to the current incumbent (vote for the devil you
> >> know) + the shia house.
> >
> >
> > There is no "shia house."
> >
>
> Oh OK then Gary.
>
> Adam

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