->  ~>>> This thread never would have started had you
acknowledged that it
->  ~>>> was McCain's fault.
-> 
->  EC>>> Obviously false, since I DIDN'T START the thread, and since the
->  J> thread
->  EC>>> stemmed from a claim that he lied, not a claim that he was at
->  J> fault.
-> 
->  J> No, it was both.
-> 
-> The thread got out of hand, but it started when McCain was called a
lier.

-> For person that did that, would NEVER use the same standards as good
enough to
-> call himself or anyone he was friendly towards a lier.
-> That hakes him a hypocrite.

Men Lie. men are hypocritical. I think with McCain 'lie' is too harsh.
Technically though, he reported something he knew not to be true, which
fits
the definition. 
If a liar is one who has sometimes done this...who would 'scape a whipping
?
I think he de-emphasized his participation in the accident.  
-> 
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