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to: Ad
from: Ad
date: 2007-02-14 07:23:10
subject: Re: why is the US lying over bits of copper & iran?

From: Ad 

ROFLMAO just as I posted the below I came across...

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=19528

"Asked to give proof that Tehran knew about the bomb shipments, the
spokesman replied: "Let me put it this way: There's not a whole lot of
freelancing in the Iranian government, especially when it comes to
something like that."

"To counter that position, you would have to assume that people were
able of putting together sophisticated weaponry, moving it across a border
into a theater of war and doing so unbeknownst and unbidden," he said.

Snow declined to offer more details, referring reporters to the Pentagon,
and when asked whether the US military had provided him details of the case
against Iran he replied: "I didn't get briefed on it.""


ROFLMFAO.


So Tony.....

(A) You're deeply knowledgeable about the Iranian gov & seemingly
"know" it is a highly disciplined "governing machine"
which...well...."Let me put it this way: There's not a whole lot of
freelancing in the Iranian government, especially when it comes to
something like that".......

Right.....As opposed to say Ollie North & co in the US? Heck they were
shifting TOW & HAWK missiles directly out of US Mil armories.

(B) ""To counter that position, you would have to assume that
people were able of putting together sophisticated weaponry, moving it
across a border into a theater of war and doing so unbeknownst and
unbidden," he said."

It's not F*cking sophisticated. that's it's f*cking strength
you.....challenged person of dubious parentage.

Gee some "formable"/plastic explosive. A steel tube with one end
blocked (or indeed a strong cooking pan). A copper cone squidged into the
PE at the unblocked end.

How "sophisticated" is that?

& then finally....

(C) Snow declined to offer more details, referring reporters to the
Pentagon, and when asked whether the US military had provided him details
of the case against Iran he replied: "I didn't get briefed on
it."

So (A) & (B) are simple conjecture & FUD.....my Lord as per Peter
Pace the US mil must be so embarrassed at times.

Adam



Ad wrote:
> Adam > wrote:
>> John Cuccia wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:40:37 +0000, Ad
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> So why come out with transparently false figures
(or try gluing 2
>>>>>> sets of true information together via a completely
fictitious link) ?
>>>>> Because it worked in the runup to the Iraqi invasion?
>>>> That's why I was so surprised. Everyone watches US
"facts & figures"
>>>> like a hawk nowadays.
>>> Maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are.
>>
>> Some are hence my surprise.
>>
>
> It seems the Mil were possibly a bit surprised...
>
> http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=19546
>
> "US general: no evidence Iran arming Iraq fighters
>
>
> Peter Pace says discovery of Iranian-made in Iraq does not indicate
> Tehran had been arming insurgents.
>
>
> JAKARTA - Top US General Peter Pace said on Tuesday the discovery of
> Iranian-made bombs and arrest of Iranians in Iraq did not indicate
> Tehran had been arming insurgents fighting coalition forces,
> contradicting claims by the US government.
>
> "That does not translate to that the Iranian government per se, for
> sure, is directly involved in doing this," Pace, chairman of the Joint
> Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in the Indonesian capital Jakarta.
>
> “What it does say is that things that are made in Iran are being used in
> Iraq to kill coalition soldiers”, he said. "
>
>
> Indeed. Arms dealers have all sorts of stocks from all sorts of places &
> can if need be be asked to make a situation look in a certain way.
>
> Adam

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