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echo: barktopus
to: Geo.
from: Adam
date: 2007-02-06 23:34:40
subject: Re: More on the globalization of Crim Law

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Geo. wrote:
> "Ad"  wrote in message
> news:45c729b8{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>
>> I'd like to comment further but agreements signed with HMG would
>> preclude that except to say the above is partly why I'm in the Health
>> dept as oddly DNA & health also go together so.....a nice big DNA db
>> can be used as part of a "connected government".
>
> and just wait till the insurance companies get access..
>
> Geo.

& another take

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/06/passport_visa_blood_sample/

"In a move reminiscent of Nazi Germany and 21st-Century Britain, the
US federal government is about to implement rules requiring routine DNA
collection from suspected illegal immigrants and anyone arrested by federal
authorities, regardless of whether they are ever convicted of a crime. DNA
collection will be performed in any situation where fingerprints would
normally be collected, and only a court order will suffice to have DNA
profiles removed from federal databases.

The FBI has been given the task of maintaining the immense DNA database
that the Feds will shortly be assembling. Given the FBI's track record in
managing major IT projects, such as its $600m Trilogy debacle (including
the complete failure of its $170m Virtual Case File system), one could be
forgiven for questioning the wisdom of entrusting vast reams of extremely
detailed and intimate data to its care."

"Unfortunately, a Republican-controlled Congress last year lifted the
restraints on government access to some of the most powerful knowledge it
can possibly acquire, in its slavish pandering to law-and-order and
counterterrorist issues.

It will not be long before DNA collection becomes a routine feature of all
arrests throughout the USA, as it now is in the UK. The USA will soon join
Great Britain, inside the winner's circle of noisy bleaters about liberty,
in succumbing to the natural lust all governments have for the tools of
totalitarianism. It is interesting, in this cross-Atlantic cultural
exchange between the USA and the UK, to watch both partners reciprocally
harmonising their civil liberties protections ever downward, to match the
most loathsome of each other's practices."

I couldn't possibly comment except to say that I flew across the Atlantic
at least as frequently when working on Home Office Systems as with Health
Service systems.

The Ozzies, EU & others are in on this.

It's called "internationalizing the problem".

Kids born 20 years from now will have their DNA taken at birth.

Welcome to the brave new world.

Adam

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