-> On 23 Jan 09  10:26:28, Richard Webb got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: Unitary government

 RW> AS I"m talking to one of the tenants, a fairly well educated lady in
 RW> comparison to many of the others btw, I told her she could be a leader
 RW> in a tenant's organization.  sHE had the intellect, the ability to
 RW> communicate, etc.  HER response. "WHy would I want to organize with
 RW> those people?" 

Yeah, I can feel her concern from here....  

 RW> fix the sewage problems, to do proper maintenace, including
 RW> preventive maintenance.  WHy organize with your neighbors?
 RW> Better living conditions might result.  But, "those people'
 RW> have nothing in common with her.
 
Other than living in the same building.  

 RW> be forgotten and another footnote in history.  WAr crimes,
 RW> we didn't see no war crimes.
 
 DC> We can always send W on an overseas junket....  

 RW> WOuld be nice.  BUt, in the long run, we didn't see any war
 RW> crimes.  What war crimes?  WHat corruption.  Just a bunch of arrogant
 RW> fat cats who made the Harding administration look like a walk in the
 RW> park. 

A good read on this is the book abou the Stanford Prison Experiment.  
It's quite eye opening as to what can happen when required supervision 
is removed or becomes complacent.  

In the case of Abu Grahib, the conditions were set from far above in
the WH.  It was not "a few bad apples".  It was a systemic flaw 
that was designed to produce the attrocities.  There was alnost no 
way the results would not have occurred given the WH guidelines.  



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