WAYNE YOUNG was thinking about lucy and keyed into cyberspace:
WY> -=> Quoting Alan Fletcher to Mark Probert <=-
WY> AF> You wrote to Wayne:
WY> 
WY> > WY>Think about THAT again!
WY> > WY>Did you borrow your data base from Alan?
WY> 
WY> > No, personal experience, US State Department briefings, and, if
WY> > you have a decent library near you, try to get your hands on a
WY> > book about eh KGB. I suggest "Tower of Secrets" by a KGB LtC who
WY> > defected in one of the finest intelligence operations conducted by
WY> > the CIA. 
WY> AF> I used to work for the Foreign Office....but that was not enough
WY> AF> for Wayne.
WY>OK, Alan, how long ago and what did you do?
WY>In the same relative position as you are with doctors?  :)
WY> > WY>You will never find a more cohesive group of people than the
WY> > WY>Jewish people. The only group that come close is the Japanese.
WY> > WY>So don't say they are individualistic.
WY> 
WY> > I am Jewish. You are so wrong. I wish you were right. But you are
WY> > not. One group of Orthodox Rabbis just declared my brand of
WY> > Judaism, non- Judaism. Is THAT cohesive?
WY> AF> He knows just about as much about the Jews as he does about
WY> AF> Marxism, Communism and homosexuals. ;-)
WY>Don't tell me you're falling for that line, are you?
WY>If the Rabbis are/were against him, you know he's an outcast.
No, Wayne, you failed at reading comprehension. I never said that I was 
an outcast. My mistake was assuming that you were somewhat informed 
about Judaism, as you had made a comment about Jews. I was wrong in my 
assumption.
You had stated your opinion that Judaism was monolithic. What I pointed 
out was that there is a schism in Judaism where the ultra-Orthodox have 
stated a position that unless Judaism is practiced according to their 
beliefs, then the person is not a Jew. The branch of Judaism I belong to 
(i.e., my brand of Judaism) which is Reform, is one of the branches that 
the ultra-Orthodox have targeted.
That is what happened. If you have anything to post to the contrary, 
please do so. If not....
WY>He also claimed to be an ex-KGB by inference, did you buy that
WY>too? And what do you know about Marxism, let alone the other two?
No, I did not claim to be ex-KGB either directly or by inference. I had 
worked for the US State Department on several occasions, and had been 
assigned to Moscow. As part of each assignment, I was briefed by the 
State Department as to the political and diplomatic climate and what to 
expect when I lived there. 
I referred you to a book, written by a ex-KGB LtC. for further 
information on the topic we were discussing (the "opiate of the people" 
according to Marx).
You chose to twist and blatantly mischaracterize what I said. That is 
clearly intellectually dishonest. And you criticize me for not using my 
licensed version of CMPQwk. Can you say hypocrite? Try it. 
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                     mark.probert@juno.com
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