On 02-26-09, DAN CEPPA said to TIM RICHARDSON:


-> On 26 Feb 09  00:26:00, TIM RICHARDSON got back to DAN CEPPA
-> Re: Waterboarding


TR> A person or persons swept up in an area full of hostiles, usually with
TR> a weapon or weapons in their possession, or a cache of weapons near at
TR> hand, gets taken into custody.


DC>Many of those arrested were unarmed.


TR> So what! Many gang members on the streets of LA are `unarmed' at the


DC>You were the one talkimg about arms.


No...*you* were. *You* were the one claiming "unarmed". The word
"unarmed"
brings *arms* into the conversation. The opposite of "unarmed" is *armed*.


And I can't help noticing the part you conveniently cut out about `tossing'
the weapons before the people making the arrest do so.



DC>Wrong.  Recruitment went through the roof when the Abu Ghraib scandle hit
DC>the news.


TR> When did `you' become an expert on al Qaeda recruitment figures? You


DC>Just read news reports, other than the tabloids.


You mean like the New York Times? Or the Washington Post?


DC>The problem did not start at the lowest level.  It came from edicts from
DC>the WH.


TR> Show me the exact WH memo that orders personnel at Abu Ghraib to `make
TR> 'em wear panties on their heads and crawl around naked barking like


DC>W stated exactly that in a TV interview he gave.  He convicted himself in
DC>his own words.


You mean he said something *you* chose to misconstrue?


DC>The degree of pain/death is irrelevant.  That the US deals in torture of
DC>any strain is morally reprehensible.


TR> Oh get off that high horse! Your attitude and demeanor in other echoes


DC>Why should I wallow in the cesspool created by W?


Nice try, Ceppa. More GW Bush hatred?


TR> Do you think 9\11 would never have taken place?


DC>Try something that can be proven or disproven.  Your speculation is an
DC>attempt to poison the well.


The well has already been poisoned by you and your bunch, starting from the
2000 election.


You've railed against GW Bush for eight years now, and you still rail against
him, But you conveniently ignore that the 9\11 attack was *going* to happen,
no matter who got in the White House on January 20th, 2001. The people
involved were already set to carry out the act, their flight training either
already complete or nearly so.


TR> Thats crap. Who do you think the individuals were that flew the planes
TR> into the World Trade Center, Santa's elves?


DC>Of which 15 of the 19 were Saudi.


TR> Nice try. They were al Qaeda.


DC>3 more were Lebanese and 1 was UAE.


Great. Still al Qaeda.

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