-> On 24 Feb 09  07:14:00, TIM RICHARDSON got back to DAN CEPPA 
-> Re: Waterboarding

 DC>They were detained in wide sweeps without supporting evidence.

 TR> A person or persons swept up in an area full of hostiles, usually with
 TR> a weapon or weapons in their possession, or a cache of weapons near at
 TR> hand, gets taken into custody.

Many of those arrested were unarmed.  As to near at hand, it's a recent combat
zone.  

 TR> someone's connections or lack thereof to a cache of firearms, or
 TR> bomb-making materials. 
 
 DC>They may be now, thanks to W's mistreatment of them.


 TR> Thats hogwash. Bush's `mistreatment' of them had nothing to do with

Wrong.  Recruitment went through the roof when the Abu Ghraib scandle hit the
news. 

 TR> it. Not only that...the mis-treatment was punished when it was brought
 TR> to light. I believe even a general was disciplined. On an EM level,

The problem did not start at the lowest level.  It came from edicts from the
WH.  

 TR> When what we do to terrorists equals cutting someone's head off with a
 TR> sword, get back to me. And don't go off on all that high-horse crapola

The degree of pain/death is irrelevant.  That the US deals in torture of any
strain is morally reprehensible.  

 DC>I never claimed that.  My statement was the W's policies were Al Qaeda's
 DC>Madison Ad campaign.

 TR> Thats crap. Who do you think the individuals were that flew the planes
 TR> into the World Trade Center, Santa's elves?

Of which 15 of the 19 were Saudi.  Not a single one was an Iraqi.  Nor was
there ever a connection between Sadam and Al Qaeda.  

bin Laden is still on the loose.  



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