-> On 26 Feb 09  00:26:00, TIM RICHARDSON got back to DAN CEPPA 
-> Re: Waterboarding

 TR> A person or persons swept up in an area full of hostiles, usually with
 TR> a weapon or weapons in their possession, or a cache of weapons near at
 TR> hand, gets taken into custody.
 
 DC>Many of those arrested were unarmed.


 TR> So what! Many gang members on the streets of LA are `unarmed' at the

You were the one talkimg about arms.  

 
 DC>Wrong.  Recruitment went through the roof when the Abu Ghraib scandle hit
 DC>the news.


 TR> When did `you' become an expert on al Qaeda recruitment figures? You

Just read news reports, other than the tabloids.  

 DC>The problem did not start at the lowest level.  It came from edicts from
 DC>the WH.


 TR> Show me the exact WH memo that orders personnel at Abu Ghraib to `make
 TR> 'em wear panties on their heads and crawl around naked barking like

W stated exactly that in a TV interview he gave.  He convicted himself in his
own words.  
 
 DC>The degree of pain/death is irrelevant.  That the US deals in torture of
 DC>any strain is morally reprehensible.


 TR> Oh get off that high horse! Your attitude and demeanor in other echoes

Why should I wallow in the cesspool created by W?  


 TR> Do you think 9\11 would never have taken place?

Try something that can be proven or disproven.  Your speculation is an attempt
to poison the well.  
 
 TR> Thats crap. Who do you think the individuals were that flew the planes
 TR> into the World Trade Center, Santa's elves?
 
 
 DC>Of which 15 of the 19 were Saudi.


 TR> Nice try. They were al Qaeda.
 
3 more were Lebanese and 1 was UAE.  

 
 DC>Not a single one was an Iraqi.

 TR> That was never claimed. Try again.
 
Then, simply by your line of reasoning, Saddam was not involved with 9/11  
That makes the attack on Iraq an action based on the lies of the Bush admin.  



 DC>Nor was there ever a connection between Sadam and Al Qaeda.

 TR> So you say.
 
So you ignore.  The CIA said exactly the same. W ignored it. 

 
 DC>bin Laden is still on the loose.


 TR> Don't worry.......now that the democrats are in almost complete
 TR> control of the country......bin Laden will probably be so scared he'll
 TR> turn himself in. 

The time to have had a decent chance to have captured him is long gone.  W
blew it when his focus jumped from that to his dire need to go after Saddam. 



... "Where's bin Laden?  I don't know and I don't care!" -- GWBush
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