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echo: sports
to: TERRY MAY
from: ED GRINNELL
date: 1997-08-06 11:01:00
subject: Expansion -- Dilution -- Bah...

Terry was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering:
 TM> And "Traded By."  You can make the argument that several teams wanted to
 TM> get rid of him.
You could if it wasn't for the fact that Harold was never causing anyone any 
trouble and he was traded for quality players (The only trade so far that 
hasn't been that way would be this current Baltimore trade but for a 38-year 
hitter, it should be better than average). Reinsdorf probably wanted to trade 
AWAY Baines because of money (Hell, it was rumored that Albert Belle was on 
the trading block because Reinsdorf was slashing salary), however, Baltimore 
had him at the top of their list.
 TM> Whether they were the primary focus or not, they were both traded FOR
 TM> and BY; you can turn it into a positive or a negative, depending on how
 TM> you want to phrase it.
It's pretty easy to see who is what, Terry. Baltimore traded FOR Berrora 
earlier this season, St. Louis traded FOR Mark McGwire, Seattle traded FOR 
Slocumb....
 TM> As I said previously, every trade is both FOR and BY the same player,
Sorry, Terry but that's not true. Do you think that Oakland wanted to trade 
away McGwire? Unlike the time they got rid of Canseco, which took them all of 
.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds to say "YES!", this 
trade was agonized over. McGwire will NEVER be thought of as traded BY, only 
as traded FOR (Do you think that Babe Ruth's trade meets for your FOR/BY 
criteria? Certainly the fans of the Red Sox won't feel that way).
 TM> So trades are a wash, in terms of positive or negative reflection on
 TM> a player, though players that are traded a lot tend to raise a bit of
 TM> suspicion that maybe there is something wrong with them.
No, it doesn't. Harold Baines has always been seen as the last piece of the 
puzzle for the pennant drive and several others that have been traded 
multiple times have been seen that way. You can't say that being traded 
multiple times means that you're unwanted or unloved but you can sure as hell 
see when a player was traded BY and traded FOR (Minnesota had a player 
without any legs playing with them last year, Darryl Strawberry started his 
comeback to the majors there. Seeing another gimmick to attract fans, they 
went after the woman -- TRADED FOR).
--- TrekEd 1.00
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* Origin: Bill James, James Dunlop. Coincidence? (1:170/1701)

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