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echo: philos
to: WILLIAM ELLIOT
from: TODD HENSON
date: 1998-01-31 22:29:00
subject: `Existence Exists`

 TH> The universe, by its nature, is necessarily finite. I explained this
 TH> to you before with the analogy of the half-infinite line, which you
 TH> never addressed, and couldn't counter.
 
 WE> But a half infinite line [0, infinity) is of infinite length.  So is
 
 TH> No, its a logical contradiction. Either it's infinite or its not.
 WE> It is of infinite length.  Technically mathematicians call the
 WE> interval from 0 to infinity a ray.
 Such paradoxes created by the human imagination and human mathematical
 language have little to do with the actual state of true infinity my
 man. True infinity is the state in which there is no beginning and no end.
 Such rays are considered infinite because of the fact that they have a start
 point and no matter how big of a number you want to designate as the
 endpoint, the human imagination can always add 1 to it, and so on. So, for
 practical purposes it is considered infinite. However, what I am concerned
 with is not "practical" infinity.
 Such conditions, like the ray scenario, arise because we are limited human
 beings, finite in our existence, scope, awareness, and linear in our
 existence, and we are trying to use our linear finite imagination to
 describe the infinite. The infinite is not of our nature, so such scenarios
 as you have described are more the result of our limitations, and not
 on the actual existence of so called "half infinities" as you have tried to
 prove.
... Would a Hindu dentist transcend dental medication?
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