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echo: mensa
to: FRANK SCHEIDT
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2006-01-24 13:06:00
subject: Nagin and New Orleans

RH> Bill Cosby is a black man that was addressing a
 RH> predominately black audience about a specific black
 RH> problem.  That audience was also made up of prominent
 RH> blacks that can and do influence their communities.  The

 Frank, did you notice that's about the same thing I said about
 Cosby's statement?

 RH> only people that had a problem with what Cosby said are the
 RH> ones that benefit from keeping a majority of blacks in
 RH> poverty.

 Which is to say, white people.

 BTW, the majority of blacks in this country are *NOT* in
 poverty. About 20% of blacks in this country are in poverty.
 Which is still a much higher percentage than whites.

 Just checked the latest edition of the Stat Ab. It's about 24%.

 Also learned something interesting. The West has the lowest rate
 of poverty for Blacks, and the highest rate of poverty for
 whites. Hmmm...

 RH> Nagin is the mayor of a large US city who was speaking to a
 RH> much larger audience with a much broader mix of race,
 RH> ethnic and religious backgrounds. What he said and the way
 RH> he said it did not fit the occasion.

 IOW, he seems to be saying, you ain't supposed to raise the
 issues of black poverty and exclusion to whites, only among
 blacks.

 When Cosby made his remarks I pointed out that it was a black
 man, addressing black problems, to a black audience. I also
 expressed my doubts, or call it objections, to black people who
 make their fame and fortune, by reciting black failures to white
 audiences. I also expressed my utter contempt for white people
 who make their fame and fortune by reciting the failures of
 black people to white audiences.

 RH> Again, klan can not
 RH> accept any truthful comments about black behavior unless

 Funny, I am the one pointing out that Nagin *DID* comment on the
 need for black people to help themselves, and that the *RIGHT
 WING* media did not include that in their denunciations.

 I do not recall Hell-m including that in anything he posted.

 RH> you include twice as many negative comments about white
 RH> behavior.

 Hell-m seems to have no problem with white people who recite the
 failures of black people while ignoring the failures of white
 people in the same areas.

 As a Christian I am obligated to attend to Jesus' injunction to
 see to the beam in your own eye before attending to the mote in
 your brother's eye.

 Hell-m may not fell constrained by any such Christian teaching.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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