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to: PAUL ANDINACH
from: TROY H. CHEEK
date: 1997-12-22 09:41:00
subject: Re: Carl Sagan on UFOs

Concerning _Carl Sagan on UFOs_, Paul Andinach said to Fred Austin in UFO:
 FA>> I  find  it  amusing  that dozens  of highly  educated people  are
 FA>> dismissed as foolish, and  warped, fantasy  prone, missing  the facts,
 FA>> yet one man, is God. One man cannot be in error.
 PA> 
 PA> Indeed, that's a very amusing idea. Where did you get it from?
From various "skeptics" who will agree with just about anyone who says 
they've examined the evidence and concluded that UFO's aren't alien 
spacecraft, while at the same time disagreeing with just about anyone who 
says they've examined the evidence and concluded that UFO's are alien 
spacecraft, despite any differences or similarities in the respective 
intelligences, schoolings, backgrounds, etc of the aforementioned anyones.
 PA> Sagan's statements are based on evidence that can be followed, tested, 
and
 PA> reproduced.
Have _you_ followed them?  Tested and reproduced them?  Or are you just 
taking it on faith that other people can and have?
 PA> As opposed to, say, somebody who believes that they met an alien.
 PA> Where is the evidence? How can I know that he's telling the truth?
Where's the evidence that mixing vinegar and baking soda produces carbon 
dioxide gas?  Sure, you can test it yourself, IF you have access to the 
materials. However, if you don't have access, you can't test it, so you don't 
really know one way or another.  Maybe, if you see enough claims by other 
people who do have access and say that it does happen, you'll believe it.  
But you don't, for instance, say that because you can't test it, it doesn't 
happen.
... The world was made for people not cursed with self-awareness. -BD
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