On 12/01/2021 07:41, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:32:12 +0000) it happened Pancho
>  wrote in :
>
>> You are again ignoring my point about the reasonable doubts of giving
>> the vaccine to young people. Giving the vaccine to the old is the best
>> way to reduce the mortality. That is why vaccine approval has been
>> rushed through as an emergency measure, quite sensibly in my view.
>> However, I would not believe medical professionals if they claim this
>> vaccine is as safe as other vaccines which have been tested over decades.
>
> Well that all depends does it not?
>  
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/24-dead-and-137-infected-at-ny-nursing-home-a
fter-experimental-covid-injections/
>

The US has vaccinated millions, it is likely that negative events will
occur, for instance applying the vaccine during a not yet recognised
infection outbreak at a care home.

Without investigation it is very difficult to untangle, coincidence from
adverse reaction. It is dangerous to jump to conclusions either that the
mass rollout has occurred without adverse reactions and is hence safe or
that adverse reactions are due to the vaccine.

The sad fact is we just don't know.


> Pfizer shit
>
> Kill all old people, those are a burden on society anyways?
> Was that not also in Hitler's mind?
> Oh no he sent all kids to war too.
>
> This is also good to know about keeping people in lockdown:
>  
https://www.rt.com/news/512137-lockdown-ineffective-coronavirus-restrictions/
>
> I think it is very obvious when you have like 3% of people test positive that
lockdowns make no sense.
> I did read the > 3% for London here:
>   https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55588163
>

It's currently reckoned to be about 5% where I live, people are ignoring
the lockdown much more than they did in March/April. AIUI, the
projections (SIR, SEIR) suggested a natural (no lockdown) concurrent
peak infection rate much, much higher something like 30-50% (I haven't
checked figures). This would swamp hospitals.


> You will bump into - or meet one covid case for every 30 people you
encounter.
>
> Most people most likely have antibodies so it is all panic making and a
control trip
> and yes I am 74 years old and not scared.
>
> I think I encountered covid about half a year ago when I got some parcel from
China, bought
> something on ebay, opened it, something got into my lungs, couched a couple
of times
> and that was it.
> Never felt anything go so deep in my lungs as that time.
> And I did not have the flue ever, no shots against it either.

OK, you are starting to sound a little unreliable.

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