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from: Mark Borgerson mborgerso
date: 2005-02-28 01:37:00
subject: Re: You Go Girl! pushing female activity

In article ,
grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:46:18 -0800, Mark Borgerson
>  wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> >grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> >> On 25 Feb 2005 13:53:59 -0800, "Hyerdahl"
 wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> >> >> On 03 Feb 2005 23:25:57 GMT, hyerdahl3{at}aol.com
(Hyerdahl3) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >Girls don't really seem to care what either of you think of their
> >> >sports.
> >>
> >>
> >> I know, but that's my point, isn't it?  Locusts don't seem to care
> >> whom they plague.
> >>
> >> > I> >mean team sports for girls are growing.  One of my
> >> >employees has a daughter in >soccer and her daughter
is going to some
> >> >big game in Salt Lake City this next >weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >> Same old Puke, always living vicariously through others.
> >>
> >>
> >> >It used to be that just
> >> >boys were able to go to playoffs to compete. >
>These girls can also be
> >> >feminine or aggressive as they (and not you) see fit.
> >>
> >>
> >> When a girl or woman chooses to be feminine, Puke, you don't seem to
> >> see that it's "fit" for them to make that choice.
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >And yes, none of them seem to have a weight problem.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> You are always making a fallacious defense of
existing institutions
> >> >> and activities, Puke, on the grounds that they
already exist (so they
> >> >> must be OK).
> >> >
> >> >Well, since they DO exist, just like boys institutions,
no one seems to
> >> >be questioning whether or not their "ok".
> >>
> >>
> >> But that argument could be used to justify ANY existing evil, Puke.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I mean isn't that a bit like
> >> >reinventing the wheel?
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, you KNOW that it was a man who invented the wheel, don't you,
> >> Puke?
> >
> >No proof offered.  Claim Fails!    (Wow, that was fun!)
> >
> >More seriously,  is there any documentation of who actually invented the
> >wheel?   All I could find is that it seems to date back to ancient
> >mesopotamia---probably to the ancient ancestor of some Iraqi potter.
>
>
> You're right.  There's no proof.
>
> But a review of records at the patent office, separated by gender,
> makes it overwhelmingly probable that a man invented the wheel.

I would agree with that.   I suspect that if the first wheel was
a potter's wheel, as some sources claim, it was probably a man
that built it.    While today's pot-throwing classes may have
a majority female enrollments,  I suspect that owes a lot
to the electric motor!  ;-)

Where did you get access to the records of the mesopotamian
patent office?    ;-)     I would guess that a lot of inventions
in the era that marked the transition from hunting and gathering
to agricultur were made by women--since there was a lot of
specialization of tasks between the genders.   Sort of like
the reason that it was a woman who invented the disposable
diaper back in the 50s  ;-)

This source does indicate that men took over much of the
pottery making after the invention of the potter's wheel.

http://www.ceramicstoday.com/articles/potters_wheel.htm
>
> ------------------------------------
> grizzlieantagonist{at}yahoo.com
>
Mark Borgerson




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