From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

John Cuccia wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:38:20 +0000, Adam
> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote:
>
>>>> Gee some "formable"/plastic explosive. A steel
tube with one end blocked
>>>> (or indeed a strong cooking pan). A copper cone squidged
into the PE at
>>>> the unblocked end.
>>>>
>>>> How "sophisticated" is that?
>> Yup & heck hezbollah used em against the Israelis in southern lebanon
>> for years precisely because they were easy to make so long as you have
>> good PE.
>
> The devices are being manufactured inside Iraq and the military knows
> it. Their C-in-C probably knows it too.
>

Possibly. Possibly not. "Don't tell me & I can't lie".


> http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-cockburn16feb16,0,6714688.story?col
l=la-opinion-center
> PRESIDENT BUSH HAS now definitively stated that bombs known as
> explosively formed penetrators — EFPs, which have proved especially
> deadly for U.S. troops in Iraq — are made in Iran and exported to
> Iraq. But in November, U.S. troops raiding a Baghdad machine shop came
> across a pile of copper disks, 5 inches in diameter, stamped out as
> part of what was clearly an ongoing order. This ominous discovery,
> unreported until now, makes it clear that Iraqi insurgents have no
> need to rely on Iran as the source of EFPs.
>
> The truth is that EFPs are simple to make for anyone who knows how to
> do it. Far from a sophisticated assembly operation that might require
> state supervision, all that is required is one of those disks, some
> high-powered explosive (which is easy to procure in Iraq) and a
> container, such as a piece of pipe. I asked a Pentagon analyst
> specializing in such devices how much each one would cost to make.
> "Twenty bucks," he answered after a brief calculation. "Thirty at
> most."


Yup. All that matters is good PE. You need a formable explosive which
detonates (as opposed to "burns fast" (like say gunpowder)).

I remember doing a course on improvising solutions using explosives (e.g.
how to bring down a tree (e.g. to block a road) just using det cord) &
the bod was this very cheery Royal Engineers type who could fab a nasty out
of PE & whatever can to hand.

E.g. if attacking the belly of a vehicle, packed earth can function as the
"tube".

Adam

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