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from: `turin` turin_turam{at}yaho
date: 2005-03-01 05:35:00
subject: Re: Koko the signing gorilla turns out to be a lesbian...

Grizzlie Dumbshit wrote:

> On 28 Feb 2005 12:57:20 -0800, "MALEFEMINIST{at}gmail.com"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> >> On 28 Feb 2005 08:25:50 -0800, "Turin"

wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> >> >> On 27 Feb 2005 17:30:56 -0800, "MASCULIST{at}gmail.com"
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >ddnoe{at}bellsouth.net wrote:
> >> >> >> Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:10:18 +0000, Freeman
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >...with a nipple fetish.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Two former employees of the
Gorilla Foundation, home to
Koko
> >> >the
> >> >> >> > >"talking" ape, have
filed a lawsuit contending that they
> >were
> >> >> >> ordered
> >> >> >> > >to bond with the 33-year-old
female simian by displaying
> >their
> >> >> >> > >breasts.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Nancy Alperin and Kendra Keller,
both of San Francisco,
are
> >> >taking
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> > >the Woodside nonprofit and its
president, Francine
"Penny"
> >> >> >> Patterson.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Their lawsuit, filed Tuesday in
San Mateo County Superior
> >> >Court,
> >> >> >> > >alleges sexual discrimination,
wrongful termination in
> >> >retaliation
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> > >reporting health and safety
violations, and failure to
pay
> >> >> >overtime
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> > >provide rest breaks.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >It seeks more than $1 million
total in damages for the
two
> >> >women.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >The suit follows complaints filed
by Alperin and Keller
in
> >> >January
> >> >> >> > >with the California Department of
Fair Employment and
> >Housing,
> >> >in
> >> >> >> > >which they gave identical reasons
for why they were
fired:
> >"I
> >> >> >> refused
> >> >> >> > >to expose my breast to perform
acts of bestiality with
one
> >of
> >> >the
> >> >> >> > >gorillas."
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >The lawsuit goes into more detail.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >One example: "On at least two
incidents in mid-to-late
June
> >> >2004,
> >> >> >> > >Patterson intensely pressured
Keller to expose herself to
> >Koko
> >> >> >while
> >> >> >> > >they were working outside where
other employees could
> >> >potentially
> >> >> >> view
> >> >> >> > >Keller's naked body. ... On one
such occasion, Patterson
> >said,
> >> >> >> 'Koko,
> >> >> >> > >you see my nipples all the time.
You are probably bored
with
> >my
> >> >> >> > >nipples. You need to see new
nipples. I will turn my back
so
> >> >> >Kendra
> >> >> >> > >can show you her nipples.' "
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/18/BAGM9BDI191.DTL
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Whoa!  Some Martian anthropologist's
face is pretty red
right
> >> >now.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > This could only have happened in the
San Fran Freakshow
Bay
> >> >Area.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> (Denise Noe) Since you wonder what my
reaction is to this
> >story, I
> >> >> >will
> >> >> >> give it to you.  I was alarmed and saddened
when I read
this.
> >I
> >> >hope
> >> >> >> with all my heart that it is false but find it
> >all-too-believable
> >> >> >that
> >> >> >> Penny Patterson might have asked something
like this of her
> >> >> >employees.
> >> >> >> The word "nipple" comes up in
Koko's conversations quite
often.
> >> >> >> Patterson and others at the Gorilla
Foundation tend to
indulge
> >the
> >> >> >> ape's whims. If these women were pressured
to do something
as
> >> >gross
> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> this, they definitely deserve to win that lawsuit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >They need a male supervisor.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>     BTW, Grizzlie, did you read my thread
about my article
> >about
> >> >men
> >> >> >> and homelessness?  I'd be most interested
to hear what you
> >think
> >> >of
> >> >> >it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'd like to read it.  I'm kind of an expert on
the subject.
What
> >> >> >thread is it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yo GA.  What did I do wrong now?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Tom
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What did you do wrong now WHAT?  The word
"now" sounds like a
ploy
> >on
> >> >> your part to make it seem as though we've had a reconciliation
> >since
> >> >> June 2003.
> >> >>
> >> >> We have never reconciled.  We never WILL reconcile.  Nothing
has
> >> >> changed since June 2003.  Why don't you just leave me alone?
> >> >>
> >> >> Since June 2003, that is all that I've ever demanded of you.
Just
> >> >> leave me alone.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >hahaha ...another infight amongst the backstabbers....
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is not a problem of yours, Turd.
> >>
> >> By virtue of the fact that you have no friends, no allies, no
peers,
> >> and no one who pays the slightest bit of attention to anything
that
> >> you do or say, you have certainly immunized yourself from
> >"infighting"
> >> or feelings of betrayal.
> >
> >Hear, hear on Turdin.
> >
> >June 2003?  The only disagreement I remember was over Wendy McElroy
and
> >me being too chummy with her.  You turned out to be right.
> >
> >Tom
>
>
> Then I guess that you sacrificed our friendship for nothing, didn't
> you?
>
> Trying to make bullshit political alliances with man-hating
> Pistol-Packing butch feminist pig Wendy McElroy was only bad
politics.
>
> Conspiring with her to try to send me to prison was an unforgivable
> personal affront.
>
>


So, as we can see, male feminist backstabbing involves not only some of
the lowest pieces of slime that you'll ever run into, but it also gets
pretty nasty.


Here we have liberal lowlife, Thomas Shit, versus corporate lowlife,
Grizzlie Adjective.  Both are not only some of the phoniest characters
you could meet anywhere, but they're also both collaborators who stick
it to their fellow Men.  This is how they used to find their own little
niches of safety in the everyday dirty game.  Then, they would hand
observers canned little philosophies to throw them off.

It doesn't really work anymore, though.  Thomas used to get by, by
using hackneyed group therapy techniques to brainwash vulnerable Men
into domestication for their wives.  Adjective simply worked straight
in the Protection Order departments of the legal system, helping to put
his fellow Men away.

Both knew what worthless traitors they are, but would seek cover for it
by claiming to be "real men", via the rationalization of their white
collar "hunting" prowess which "provides" for women
(oh, and let's not
forget children) in the exploiter professions.

And, of course, also by going heavy on the punchy personality.

Closet feminists.  Chicken shit pussy fags.


However, the cult of Ed Asner is pretty much dead as far as mommy pimps
go.  Men have had enough of both the social worker with an attitude and
the yuppie fag who postures and browbeats.  Non-working pussies like
them both try to rationalize traditional roles into mere abstracts -
for themselves, and to let women do whatever the fuck they want to.

Fine, but then they turn around and tell Men to check themselves for
gender-blending.  Huh?  ...yeah, right.  Basically, the game has been
to free themselves by trapping other Men.  No competition - no one to
show them up, and the panty waist can then flap his lips about his
hollow victory over Men of other classes all he likes, minus any
challenge.


But, it isn't such a hot formula anymore.

Scumbag traitors like Thomas and Jizzlie Fagtagonist have been betrayed
by the type of women they long collaborated with.  It ain't so easy for
them to fit into the work place - or the home - anymore - no matter how
much they try to shack up and play house.

I'm always seeing the knife being slipped in by the guys who are so
careful not to commit themselves to the cause, and who still hold on to
fears of being seen opposing women - rather than the meaningless
stereotypes - and so still provide cover for their duplicity.  Since
they got no guts to take women on, they prey on each other.

It's good to see.  Without their dead fucking weight we're traveling
lighter and lighter as time goes by....



- - -

"And who will save you now?", chuckled the evil Republican.
The oppressed prisoner threw back his head and yelled:

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------
http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Men_First/
------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----


> ------------------------------------
> grizzliedumbshit{at}yahoo.com
>
> "Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause for tonight's
player of the game - FRAN-CIS-CO SAN-N-N-N-TOS!
>     - Brian Anthony (P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium), June 11,
2004
>
>
> "Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
> hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
>
>     - Horace, the Roman poet
>
>
> Logical positivism, dominant in American and
> British universities, is suicidally bent upon
> establishing the impossibility of knowing any-
> thing.  (As Wyndham Lewis suggested in "Self
> Condemned", the neo-positivist pedant reduces
> himself to a mosquito, able to wound, nearly
> invulnerable to counter-assault - but only an
> insect, not a man).
>
>      - Russell Kirk, Enemies of the Permanent
>        Things



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