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from: Phil Payne
date: 2007-02-23 07:20:20
subject: The problem is ..

From: "Phil Payne" 

.. this is NEVER going to go away.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2019580,00.html

"These standard mind-breaking techniques have never faced scrutiny in
an American court because the prisoners in the jails are foreigners and
have been stripped of the right of habeas corpus - a denial that,
scandalously, was just upheld by a federal appeals court in Washington DC.
There is only one reason Padilla's case is different - he is a US citizen.
The administration did not originally intend to bring Padilla to trial, but
when his status as an enemy combatant faced a supreme court challenge, the
administration abruptly changed course, charging Padilla and transferring
him to civilian custody. That makes Padilla's case unique - he is the only
victim of the post-9/11 legal netherworld to face an ordinary US
trial."

Remember that - he's a US citizen.  Not "foreign".  Any US
citizen could face similar treatment.  Watch the envelope gradually shrink.
 The USA is - AT THIS INSTANT - no better than Stalin's Soviet Union or
Hitler's Germany.

No matter what your core beliefs, no matter that you think it cannot
happen. It _IS_ happening.

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

--
  Phil Payne
  http://www.isham-research.co.uk
  +44 7833 654 800

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