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from: George Sherwood
date: 2007-02-25 15:50:10
subject: Re: 787 Rolls on

From: George Sherwood 

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:59:06 +0000, Adam wrote:

> George Sherwood wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:54:56 +0000, Adam wrote:
>>
>>> George Sherwood wrote:
>>>> Have known about this one for a while.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/
>> story/02-23-2007/0004533209&EDATE=
>>>> Boeing (NYSE: BA) and
>>>> Azerbaijan Airlines have signed an order for three 787-8 Dreamliners
>>>> and two Next-Generation 737-900ERs (Extended Range).
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Chuckle. Like there could ever be enough traffic to Baku to justify
>>> anything bigger.
>>>
>>>
>> Ahhh, so finally you see my point on why the A-380 isn't going to be
>> the success you claim. Many more Baku's in the world then places that
>> can use the A-380.
>>
>> George
>
> Nope. Boeing sold the 737 and the 747 side by side. The dreamliner is in
> effect a long range 737.
>
> Yes the 737 is more numerous than the 747 & I am sure the dreamliner
> will be more numerous than the 380 however the relevant airbus model
> would be a better comparator & the 380 should be compared to the 747 new
> model (or indeed almost any 747 sold after the 380 goes into proper
> production).
>
It isn't about numbers.  It is about making a profit and I don't see the
380 being profitable for a long long long time.  They are still at about
half the sales needed with the original numbers.  Probably close to double
that now.  Although lately EADS is seeming more like a state concern that
doesn't care about profit then a real company.  The new 747 isn't going to
need near the same numbers to generate good profits.



> &....has this dreamliner flown yet? So any/many delays? No reason to
> think it will break the golden rule of new aircraft designs & that as
> such it will be on time.

Ready to start a pool?  I bet not half as late as the 380 and most likely
going to be within six months of the target date.

George

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