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from: Garry Stahl
date: 2003-07-01 03:29:18
subject: Re: [trekcreative] Re: This `you know what` discussion seems to have be

To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
From: Garry Stahl 
Reply-To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com

Joseph Manno wrote:

>To me, though, well-done erotica (and boy, is THAT a subjective term)
>fleshes out characters and makes them more vibrant and three-dimensional. We
>are sexual beings, and ignoring that leaves a part of the human condition
>unexplored.
>
>I've never understood why depictions of warfare and death are acceptable,
>while those of sexuality aren't. No one bats an eyelash when the 13th
>destroys a Cardassian fleet---
>

I never implied that sexuality is not acceptable.  I prefer to draw the
curtain when the clothes fall off.  I see that aspect of the relationship
as "private", not for the public, or readers, view.  I do imply
it, even make it fairly plain that it has happened.  I don't see anything
romantic or revealing, in the physical blow by blow of the act.

On the other had I do draw the point that warfare and death are NOT
acceptable, even if circumstances force us to them.  I also do not write
blow by blow descriptions of people getting killed in graphic detail.



>---but some snicker and/or condemn (and I'm not saying anyone here did
>either, nor am I feeling assailed) when, say, Erika Donaldson and Luciano
>Mantovanni have an enjoyable night together.
>
>Doesn't really make sense, when considered objectively, does it?
>
>

Erotica is harder than comedy.  And you cannot please everyone with it.
 Some will say yuck, others will say you didn't go far enough.  That is
one of the reasons I eschew it.  A million ways to do it wrong, and few
ways to do it right. Fine, Erica and Luciano had a wonderful night, this is
good.  However I found the most revealing moments came before sex got
started, and after sex was over.  The during didn't reveal much about
either of them we needed to know.  What it did reveal I think could have
been worked into the before or the after.

Lastly, I don't think you will ever see an objective opinion on this
matter, including your own.  Sex is an extremely subjective subject, and
always will be.


--
Garry   AKA   -Phoenix-   Rising Above the Flames

Star Trek le mort.  Viva la Star Trek admiraetur.

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