Hyerdahl wrote:
> Ian wrote:
>
> > Tony Bliar promises to tax married fathers most, single men next,
and
> then women across the board, to pay for their own maternity pay.
>
> Tony Blair recognizes that men who want to be fathers benefit as much
> from protecting women's reproductive health as much as women.  Only a
> woman-hater would demand that women alone pay for the costs of
bringing
> children into the world.  And, tax dollars are also spent on things
> women don't want, like war machines.  So, get off your patriarchal
high
> horse.

You really must get away from the idea that tax, paid by men, on things
men deem necessary really has anything to do with women.

Women don't pay any net tax. Men pay for literally everything, that
isn't female specific. Men pay for women to get to retirement age, and
the contributions in tax women have made in the whole of their life,
doesn't add up to enough even to pay their pensions.

As for reproductive health, I agree. This is why we should then make
women pay for their own healthcare, the day they stop menstruating.

>
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4304417.stm
> >
> > This of course is only going to benefit working women.
>
> Most young women work outside the home, so what you're really saying
is
> that maternity leave benefits most women, and the men who want to

No it isn't but this is why I love arguing with you, it's fun watching
you make one statement, "Most young women work." (Because they have
to.) and then make a conclusion which sounds good but in fact is
bollocks. "so what you're saying is that maternity leave benefits most
women" which doesn't follow at all.

be
> fathers, who love those women.  IOW, most of society agrees with some
> form of maternity leave.

You mean, most people don't think what it really means to be forced to
work.


>
>  How odd, it seems that no matter what he promises, it only ever
seems
> to aid women who have to work to pay the bills.
>
> Since most women work, why would you imagine legislation that would
NOT

Because most women don't want to work. (cue request for cite that's
been served time and time again.)

> benefit working women?  Are you just a sexist pig?

No. I'm an abusive alcoholic wifebeater too.

> AND, women who stay home, already have maternity leave at home, also
> benefitting the woman, the soon to be child and the husband.  Tony
> Blair doesn't HATE fathers; he simply recognizes that maternity leave
> benefits both mothers and fathers.

No it doesn't. It's fathers who have to pay for it, and mothers.

>
> > So there you go girls, with the extra money you're paying yourself
> out of your own future taxation, you can afford to buy more chocolate
> and prozac to calm your nerves.
>
> That's ok tho;  the chocolate and prozac women buy to defray the cost
> of doing business (to their psyches) is cheaper and more legal than
the
> amount of illegal drugs AND booze men buy to get them thru the
business
> day, eh?

I don't care about men having a beer, it's what we do to socialise.
What I do care about is the widespread drugging of women, in order to
keep them working, in order to keep taxing them, and the associated
cost to society.

Nowhere did you mention children in there. You say we should care for
mothers, but miss the essential point, so that THEY can care for
children. Since you don't think that's necessary, there's no need to
care for women is there?

Or is it care for women so they can have a kid, only then to not give a
fuck about her, unless she does what you psycho feminists want.

It must be terrible for you to hate men so much, that you'd rather a
woman was forced to work, under the influence of antidepressants, than
see her man have someone iron his shirts. Still that's feminism.



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