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From: Garry Stahl 
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Joseph Manno wrote:

>JM - Integral superior technology, first off. I would imagine slightly
>better metallurgy, design principles, etc. (see below) In other words, in
>many intangible technobabble ways, the Sovereign is a vastly superior ship.
>

We get vastly in so little time?  Considering the advances in the 100 years
since TOS, I don't think so.


>JM - Space I'll concede---provisionally. Who is to say, though, that the
>labs aboard the Sovereign aren't simply smaller, more cleverly designed, and
>more space efficient than those aboard the Galaxy? The Galaxy may be
>lavishly overloaded for her mission, which means some of the space is
>wasted.
>
>And just because a Galaxy has over 1,000 people aboard, that doesn't mean
>she's peopled with more *essential* personnel than a Sovereign. How many of
>those are eight-year-old kids, artist wives/husbands, etc.? Actual crew
>complement might be the same, or even favor the Sovereign, for all we know.
>

For all we know, the crew numbers are given.  If smaller and more clever
labs are designed, existing ship would be upgraded to this clever designs. 
Ergo the size advantage remains.  The advantage to the Galaxy is the lavish
use of space.  Legs, more room per person.  Mental health space and yes
families are part of that.  Joe science crew goes back to a family and the
wonderful decompression that affords.


>JM - I can't speak to canonical evidence, and disregard some modeler
>fanboy's declaration (I don't mean you; I mean the person who did the
>write-up for the model). To me, it's obvious that if a Galaxy was designed
>with a Type-X phaser array, the Sovereign, built in a much more
>defense-conscious era, possesses something like a Type-XII or XIII. I also
>assume swapping out the phaser arrays is an extremely difficult job---that
>the strips and such are integral components. She'd also have more and better
>torpedo launchers, and is the only ship, along with the Defiant-class, that
>we've ever seen fire a quantum torpedo.
>

Now you are asking me to accept that Starfleet is stupid.  You want me to
believe Starfleet would design a ship for a 100 year service life, but make
it impossible to upgrade the weapons.  Hell design it for a 50 year service
life and make maintenance and upgrades difficult.  No, I will not accept
that Starfleet is stupid in order to make one class of ship more
"special" or "better than the rest".

Yes we've never see it fire a quantum torpedo.  We have also never seen the
Queen give birth, but believe the reports she has.


>Here's a thought: If the Galaxy-class was more or even *as* formidable
>overall as the Sovereign-class, Garry, Picard would have been given a *new*
>Galaxy-class after Troi crashed the E-D, and it would have been named
>Enterprise-E. Precedent is established in Star Trek IV. Instead, he received
>a Sovereign-class, because *she's* the new showcase ship, the one of which
>the Federation is very proud---prouder, obviously, than the Galaxy-class.
>
>
Here is another thought.  That if Paramount didn't mind paying Andrew
Probert money every time the Galaxy class Enterprise appeared, they
wouldn't have destroyed the E-D in a totally gratuitous fashion that did
not advance the plot in the least in the first place, and we would never
have seen the Sovereign class at all.  However, Paramount didn't want to
keep giving Probert money, so they did crash it and did replace it with an
in house design. And there is your real reason for the entire exercise.


--
Garry   AKA   -Phoenix-   Rising Above the Flames

Star Trek le mort.  Viva la Star Trek admiraetur.

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