Am 19 Jun 17  18:20:00 schrob TIM RICHARDSON an GERHARD STRANGAR zum Thema 


TR> Bad guys are highly unlikely to draw a gun and start shooting where most
TR> people present are likely to be armed.

Some are, others are not. It depens on whether we're talking about organized
crime, some guy on drugs trying to get money for the next injection, someone
with mental problems or a religous fanatic who thinks living with 72 virgins
could be fun.

TR> The shooter at the ball park the other day might not have acted had it 
TR> been common knowledge that several, if not all, individuals he was going 
TR> to target been armed with their own firearms.

I'm not familiar with baseball training, but I guess, there was an audience
watching and the picture that I found looks like the shooter positioned himself
in the middle of the audience:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/14/us/virginia-shooting-congress-sc
alise.html

It looks like one guy got shot near second base, he probably got surprised by
the shooting and caouldn't even tell from where the shots ware fired. And even
if he could, shooting back into the audience would have been even more stupid
than running around with a loaded gun while playing baseball. Even within the
audience shooting the shooter is only an option if you're very close to him,
but if you're close, you don't need to shoot.

In Germany he might not even have made it to the playground, if you walk around
with a rifle, people will call the police.

TR> Gun `laws' do nothing to either prevent nor reduce gun crimes.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, because if it's illegal to own a gun and
you do own one, you're committing a gun crime, aren't you? And while you
certainly cannot prevent organized crime from getting access to guns, you can
definately prevent the people with acute mental illnesses and the religous
fanatics from shooting around if they cannot just walk into the next
supermarket and buy guns or ammo. Moreover you can save some stupid people from
being shot by their own gun and there a too many videos of that on the internet
and whereas Russians seem to be drunk when they shoot themselves, Americans do
that while being sober.

TR> Many times the ones doing the shooting turn out to be individuals who, 
TR> by the very gun laws liberals claimed we `needed' to prevent gun deaths, 
TR> are in violation of those very laws.

It's weird when the ones who try to ban something are the liberals. :-)

TR> The only people who obey gun laws are law-abiding citizens. To criminals 
TR> gun laws are meaningless. They don't obey them.

LOL. Breaking the law is mendatory for being a criminal and you could actually
reduce crime to zero by allowing everything. So, you could legalize murder,
because the criminals don't care anyways ...

TR> A heavily-armed citizenry is a far better deterent to criminals than all 
TR> the gun laws in the world.

That must be why there's so little crime in the US. ;->




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Gerhard
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