On 10/01/2021 15:46, David Higton wrote:
> In message 
>            Pancho  wrote:
>
>> The risk of Covid for people < 30 is surprising low.  I've not seen any
>> testing that shows it is safer from them, in general,  to take a vaccine.
>
> Not true.  The risk of Covid for them is very low, yes; and the risk
> from taking the vaccine is even lower.
>

Just how would we know that? The IFR for someone less than 30 is <
0.01%. For a healthy person under 30, even less. You cannot rely on
testing 20,000 people for a few months to be confident of that level of
risk.

Unless you have a cite, I'm going to assume you are just making it up.
Something which has plagued medical treatments throughout the ages.


> In any case, it's an indefensibly selfish viewpoint.

I'm old and it seems perfectly defensible to me. Expecting perfectly
healthy people, at low risk, to take a poorly tested treatment just in
order to protect others seems a tad selfish to me.

But I don't think the young are being vaccinated yet. I guess they won't
be vaccinated for a few months. By then the "test" sample size will be
much greater, we will have a little more confidence in the vaccine. We
still won't know about long term effects, obviously.

> There is a much
> greater risk that they will contract Covid and pass it on to someone
> who has a much higher risk, maybe going on to die or to suffer long
> term damage from "long Covid".
>

Again, the vaccine effect on transmission is unclear from the testing I
have seen.

> Remember, something like a third of people who have Covid are not
> even aware that they have it.  Such people are highly dangerous,
> even lethal.
>

The same applies to school kids > 11, I've not heard people suggesting
vaccinating them. Herd immunity appears to be a pipe dream.

Remember, in the UK, AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine approval is "for
emergency supply". The EU has refused to approve it yet.

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