"Society" (Society{at}feminism.is.invalid) writes:
> "Andre Lieven"  wrote in message
> news:d00dt5$ioe$1{at}theodyn.ncf.ca...
>>
>> [... O]ne great proof of the non existence
>> of sex based pay discrimination is that,
>> if it really existed, firms would rush to hire
>> more of the lower paid types of workers,
>> and fewer of the higher paid workers.
>
> Ahh, Andre, but firms DO rush to hire
> more of the lower-paid-per-unit-of-output
> workers -- men -- whilst shunning the
> higher-paid-per-unit-of-output workers!

Well, thats because men tend to do actual
work... 

> Feminists ignore the economic (lack of) value
> of the work women do when feminists pout
> about the relative size of the pay packets earned
> by men and women.  Oh well, all excuses for
> feminism depend on censorship of reality.  ;-)

Indeed.

> The very claim by feminists that firms are
> hiring men over women demonstrates that
> men are generally underpaid and women
> overpaid for their productive output.  This,
> of course, puts the lie to feminist claims
> that women are underpaid.  Basic economics,
> really.

Truth.

>> Since thats not happening, the so called
>> discrimination doesn't exist.
>
> Oh ho, Andre, THAT is happening BUT the
> so-called discrimination that doesn't exist is
> discrimination against women.

Those were the false claims I was addressing.

> Clearly, tho',
> discrimination against men is clear as day for
> anyone who doesn't suppose that businesses
> haven't abandoned basic economic motives.
> Businesses prefer to hire workers for less pay
> in exchange for higher productivity.  Businesses,
> say feminists, prefer to hire men as workers.
> Ergo, men work for less pay than women!

And, for less perks: Maternity leave, affirmative
discrimination, and conduct codes to make the princesses
" more comfortable "...

> --
>    If you find it inconceivable... check your premises.
>    You will find that one of them is wrong.
>
>    Ayn Rand, _Atlas Shrugged_.

Andre


--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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