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echo: ufo
to: JACK SARGEANT
from: FRED AUSTIN
date: 1998-02-10 12:17:00
subject: My stand on UFOs

 -=> Quoting Jack Sargeant to Fred Austin <=-
 >  -=> Quoting Jack Sargeant to Fred Austin <=-
    Hi Jack,
 > saw, is explainable.  And yet I do remember a post a while back, where
 > I do believe you stated that "you know what you saw" and  it certainly
 > was enough  to  convince  you  of  the  legitimacy of this phenomenon.
 > Basically, "Seeing Is Believing".
 JS> You are just searching for words that are not there, nor have been
 JS> spoken.
    Ho ho!  Now Jack, my memory  is still  good.  Not  written is  the 
word here, implied is the keyword.  Just because every second  word is 
not "alien", does not mean it is not implied.  Or do you  still prefer 
to suggest a saucer shaped craft in 1953 was of domestic origin.  
Only you know what you saw or didn't see.  
 > phenomenon, that is no problem. I have no problem with that. If you
 > now say, perhaps it was not a craft etc, perhaps a trick of the eye,
 > or balloon that's fine with me.  I prefer people to be
 > straightforward and honest.
 JS> You don't like it when I play devil's advocate, do you?  
 JS> Sorry, but if my fun appears to be at your expense, then I guess I
 JS> have to step in and say no harm was intended.
    Jack, there is no harm, if  you wish  to suggest  now that  "disc- 
shaped objects" were built by Bell Telephone, I  have no  problem with 
that.  Or that you flew to Paris in one for lunch. But let us  clarify 
one  thing  here,  Ufology  does  deal  with  the  prospect  of  alien 
incidents.  Period.   Otherwise this  subject would  have passed  away 
into oblivion  years ago,  no one  is interested  in plasma  balls, or 
flocks of geese.  It  is the  implied possibility  of other  life that 
intrigues  scientists,  Ufologists,  and  conspiracists.   It  is  the 
possibility that  we are  being investigated,and  from where,  and for 
what  purpose  that  intrigues,  and added  to that  is of  course the 
obvious danger to mankind.  And what I don't like is  irrelevant, just 
remember you may be the advocate, but I am the devil himself ...
 >     Disclaimers, now you sound like a marketing firm  Jack.  Well, we
 > all speculate as to purpose, what  is genuine,  what is  hoax, and of
 > course  from  where  etc  etc..   You  and I  both know  that the UFO
 > community has no physical, undeniable proof.  Only circumstantial.
 > But we  certainly  have a  lot of  circumstantial.  Piles  of data.
 > But I understand where you are coming from.
 JS> Well then, stop complaining! I have the skeptic community to contend
 JS> with whenever I forget to announce my intentions.
    The skeptic community  Ho Ho!  Ah,  are we  walking on  rice paper 
lately .  Well, "announce my intentions"?   What are  you doing? 
Planning to marry a skeptic? ...  
 JS> You should know me well enough by now that I am sympathetic to the
 JS> cause, but how much can I assume from a sighting I had years ago? The
 JS> word alien is too much of a leap for me to make.
    Well,  I  assume nothing,  but like  it or  not Jack,  the subject 
really is, was that a genuine alien, or not.  That is what  the object 
of this exercise is,  to determine  once and  for all  within whatever 
time frame it takes, are we the subject of alien intrusion, and  if it 
comes to pass that proof finally comes out, then anything goes........
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