JPH>         Well, yes.  that's true.  But in the specific case, Honor
 JPH> Harrington post dates Trek and so Trek can not be influenced by those
 JPH> stories.  The Honor Harrington stories may be influenced by trek to
 JPH> certain degree, but that's just speculation.
In this case, I agree.  In other cases...  TNG in particular was influenced 
by a lot of current work from other places.  They ripped off...er, umm... 
"borrowed" from a lot of folks up to and including Anne Rice.  And usually in 
a very clumsy way.
 JPH>         As for Space Opera influencing Trek, go look at "Forbidden
JPH> Planet"  I've heard it described as the real, true, secret first pilot
 JPH> for Star Trek.  Many of the elements are in place there.
Again, true.  I think Roddenberry (who apparently had not read much SF before 
making ST) saw this movie and it became (intentionally or not) the major 
influence for what became ST.  It's 40-plus years old and still a pretty good 
movie, too.
Victoria Aeron Mackey
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