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date: 2005-03-01 21:38:00
subject: Re: Victims Gone Wild

Sean_MacCloud wrote:

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> MCP wrote:
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>>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.09.05/feminism-0506.html
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>>How Feminism Has Messed Up Relationships
>>
>>By Amy Alkon
>>
>>"IN SEDUCTION, the rapist often bothers to buy a bottle of
wine," proclaimed
>>radical feminist Andrea Dworkin in 1976. If you're a woman born 20 years
>>ago, you probably don't even recognize Dworkin's name. Yet, there's a good
>>chance you've had some seriously frustrating dates with her unwitting
>>progeny: the guy who waits until date three or four-not to grab you, throw
>>you up against the wall and suck face-but to politely inquire,
"May I kiss
>>you?"

I know that there have been opportunities missed
because I did not more a lot quicker than that -
like immediately.

These feminist writers write from their own
perspective and then assume that is the right
perspective for everyone else.

It is typical of the overly conditioned
authoritarian personality type who is utterly
convinced that what they think cannot be wrong.

>>Equal pay for equal work? It's a beautiful thing. Equal opportunity?
>>Thrilled to have it. We women owe an enormous debt to Susan B. Anthony,
>>Elizabeth Cady Stanton and all who followed in their footsteps, fighting the
>>righteous fight against sex-based discrimination.
>>
>>Unfortunately, in the late '70s and early '80s, feminism got hijacked by a
>>small but vocal gang of Victims Gone Wild. Leading the band with Dworkin was
>>anti-porn harpy and law professor Catherine MacKinnon (most of whose
>>outrageous, but now commonly accepted, claims about the damage done to women
>>by pornography were neatly debunked in a 2004 analysis by psych professor
>>Catherine Salmon).
>>
>>Dworkin, MacKinnon and their hairy-armpitted underbosses gave the order to
>>the "victimized"-women, largely privileged and white, on
campuses across
>>America-to crawl out from under the boot of "male
oppression." In reality,
>>what they were fighting wasn't male oppression, but maleness of any
>>kind-based on the erroneous feminist notion that equality means sameness.

There is no male oppression. Women were
originally eager to take up their role in the home.

>>In their eyes, male sexuality isn't just different. It's WRONG. Penetration
>>is a form of rape, don'tcha know? Ultimately, these femi-fascists sought to
>>re-create men in their own image and to reshape sexual expression into
>>something kinder, gentler and more "egalitarian."
(Personally, I have no
>>idea what more "egalitarian" sex is-and I hope I never find out.)
>>
>>According to their Stalinist-feminist party line, every man is a criminal-a
>>rapist until proven otherwise. In 1992, a small mob of
"wymyn" bullied
>>Antioch College into passing the "Antioch Rules," a
written code mandating
>>that one obtain "clear verbal consent" from one's partner
in any sexual act.
>>At Antioch, from then on, raging desire was expected to play out as if
>>accompanied by the small print on an airline ticket: "Pardon
me, but would
>>you mind giving me your unqualified verbal permission to tongue your left
>>nipple?"
>>
>>Men, as a group, were expected to feel ashamed-although the individual man
>>was generally unclear as to what, he, personally, had done wrong, just by
>>virtue of being born with a penis. Relations between men and women got very
>>confusing. Opening the door for a girl didn't mean you were polite; it meant
>>you found her inferior.

If you don't open it for her you are a rude,
inconsiderate, bastard and typical of the male
species.

>>Whatever you do, don't compliment that female co-worker on her hair-a
>>compliment is no longer just a compliment but a full-on patriarchal assault,
>>surely intended to send a woman running, screaming, out of a "hostile
>>workplace." It got to the point, in many quarters, where just
about anything
>>a guy could say or do, short of silently rolling over like a stuffed pink
>>bunny, was seen as a capital offense upon the Sisterhood.
>>
>>Perhaps some of this sounds like old news. It is-and it isn't. While the
>>radical feminists have receded into the background, their agenda is still
>>trickling down into sex, dating and relationships. Just look around at young
>>women and what they wear. Sure, there is that subset of preteen streetwalker
>>chic. But, there are also a lot of lonely women in their 30s and 40s who
>>dress like men trying to attract work picking lettuce. Refusing to pander to
>>"the male gaze" is what it used to be called.
>>
>>These women can't, for the life of them, figure out why they're unable to
>>get a date. After all, men "shouldn't" care about what's
on the outside,
>>right? They "should" only lust after that beautiful
person within ... right?
>>Yes, perhaps they "should." But they don't, and they
won't, and the sooner
>>women admit that, the sooner they'll have a date with more than their cat on
>>Saturday nights. Of course, this does assume that women will be asked out.
>>That's another big problem, judging by all the requests for advice I get
>>from guys who wonder why no women will ever agree to go out with them, then
>>note somewhere in their message that they're too terrified to even ask.
>>
>>You really can't blame the guys. They're looking for a sign, any sign, that
>>it's safe; that they won't be rejected. They aren't getting many (or any),
>>because women who go out of their way to look like migrant laborers
>>generally aren't in the habit of flirting-the method women have successfully
>>used for centuries to send a message to men that the coast was clear for the
>>asking.
>>
>>Some misguided women today do try to take over and sweep a man off his feet.
>>While there are those stories of deliriously happy couples in which the man
>>was hunted down like prey, a whole lot of young women have learned the
>>lesson the hard way that the dynamic created by this act of
"equality"
>>doesn't work.
>>
>>Men and women are actually very different; biologically different. No, they
>>didn't magically become the same just because a bunch of man-loathers in the
>>women's studies ghetto decided to grow out their mustaches.
>>
>>The burgeoning field of evolutionary psychology is proving that there's
>>nothing new in psychology. In fact, an ever-increasing mountain of data
>>shows that what men want and what women want has always been, and will
>>likely continue to be, the same as it was back in cave days.
>>
>>Acknowledging how we're hard-wired, and using it in our best interest
>>doesn't "put a woman down." In fact, it takes a strong,
self-assured,
>>post-victim-feminist woman to ease up a little. Acting the girl (or putting
>>on the alpha male) is a role-one that's worked for 10 million years. As a
>>role, it involves play and fun-a big part of what's been lost on the dating
>>scene.
>>
>>It's time all women junked the big ugly boots, shelved the perpetually dour
>>faces and worked up a seductive smile or two. Maybe, once they do, they'll
>>inspire a guy to glue a little hair on his chest and ask them for a date. In
>>time, the guy might even work up the guts to kiss them afterward-and without
>>asking them to sign a permission slip first.
>>
>>--
>>Men are everywhere that matters!
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> Boopsie can't get her bell rung...
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