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 BK>> Being insulted is not ground for shooting up the place, and
 BK>> killing people. It is not grounds for seizing power. Now, how
 BK>> many Russian people live there? And why are Russians living in
 BK>> Ukraine and claiming the right to decide who rules the country?

 LL> Who has. the right to decide who gets to stay and who must

 Those who were there first? OK, democracy over all other
 systems.

 LL> leave? Palestinians claim Israelis stole their land.  And

 The UN did.

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 LL> other peoples from far away were allowed to settle and
 LL> literally steal that land from the proper owners.

 Those displaced by war often do that, through out history. From
 what I read, the frightening thing about Attilla the Hun is, he
 was the loser in the wars where he came from.

 LL> Of course, we did much the same thing in regards to Native
 LL> Americans, forcing them to live on reservations which we had
 LL> so conveniently set aside for them.

 Yep.

 LL> Hell, we were so damned nice to Injuns that we denied them
 LL> the right to vote - until Bill Clinton took office.  And now
 LL> look at what they are doing to us.  Those same Injuns are
 LL> taking us to court in order to keep our oil companies from
 LL> fracking on the land that we gave them to live on!

 Dang it! How come they get it right but our representatives get
 it so wrong?
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 BK>> But it was the deaths of at least 88 people, many of them
 BK>> protesters shot dead by uniformed snipers in 48 hours of
 BK>> bloodshed, that ultimately brought him down.
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 LL> According to the CIA, Libyans are the most patriotic people
 LL> on Earth.  For decades, they looked upon their leader as
 LL> being the most honest and trustworthy man who ever lived.

 Well, since they might be killed for saying anything else...

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 LL> there.  Yes, my friend, Libyans loved Billy Beer, which is

 No wonder they had problems.

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 BK>> Russia maybe not, Putin I'm not so sure of.

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 BK>> Afghanistan was the base for the 9-11 attack. Iraq was a war for
 BK>> oil. We should have been out of Afghanistan quickly, and never
 BK>> in Iraq. I was talking about the republican reaction to a screw
 BK>> up series of wars, vs doing nothing or something now.

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 LL> example, President Bush was warned well ahead of time that
 LL> terrorists were planning such a strike, yet chose to
 LL> nothing to prevent it.

 His bosses at the Project for a New American Century over ruled
 him. It was their excuse to have the war they so long wanted.

 Louis Farrakahn deleted.

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 LL> Did the President know about an impending terrorist attack
 LL> and deliberately choose to do nothing, knowing no wartime
 LL> President has ever lost a bid for re-election?  Did

 Hid daddy did, but he ended his war too soon.

 LL> is Minister Farrakhan full of bunk?

 Yes.

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 AK>>> It is not correct. Ask people from Israel or the US what an
 AK>>> invasion looks like. So far you can't tell of Russian
 AK>>> "invasion". People must be very accurate in such things.

 BK>> Putin has backed off. However, it certainly appeared he wanted
 BK>> to cut the Ukraine up.

 LL> It was never Putin's intention to invade Ukraine.

 He might not have intended to, he probably figured it would all
 be done by proxy.

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 LL> The US Congress authorized the use of force in regards to
 LL> Iraq so that President Bush could force Saddam Hussein to
 LL> back down - thus allowing UN inspectors to continue their
 LL> work in Iraq. How did that work out?  Instead of diplomacy,

 That part worked out perfectly.

 LL> our fine President chose WAR.  We were the aggressor.  Iraq
 LL> did not attack the US. We attacked Iraq.

 That was the catch, the Bush puppet masters never intended
 anything but invasion.

 LL> Did Russia invade Crimea?  No.
 LL> Did Russia invade Ukraine?  No.

 LL> The people of Crimea made their own choice to join Russia.
 LL> Nobody forced them to do that.  A vote was held, and it was
 LL> really no contest.

 There is no way to really know that. Who counted the votes?

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 So nice to have your absurdities back.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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